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Bringing balance to the universe: New theory could explain missing 95 percent of the cosmos
University of Oxford ^ | Dec 5, 2018

Posted on 12/05/2018 9:02:07 AM PST by ETL

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To: Windflier
Re: "...unifying dark matter and dark energy into a single phenomenon

pure ad hoc fantasy...

Ordinary matter and energy are believe to be manifestations of each other. E=mc^2

61 posted on 12/05/2018 12:19:32 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Dave Wright

“The main problem is that negative mass matter would be able to exceed the speed of light based on Einstein’s special relativity equations”

It doesn’t because the time vector is reversed as mentioned in an above comment. Like miles per (negative) second.


62 posted on 12/05/2018 12:22:31 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Dave Wright
The main problem is that negative mass matter would be able to exceed the speed of light based on Einstein’s special relativity equations

Zero mass particles such as photons and alleged "gravitons" travel precisely at the speed of light. But how do you figure that supposed "negative mass" particles would travel faster than light?

63 posted on 12/05/2018 12:30:00 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: blueunicorn6
“95% of the cosmos is missing?’’. Good man , do that. I'll go out and look in my shed. Maybe it's in there. Shed needs straighting up anyway.
64 posted on 12/05/2018 12:46:54 PM PST by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: sparklite2
I went to an astronomy lecture and asked at the end why the smaller galaxy of the Whirlpool cluster was red shifted so far back from the big galaxy that they could not possibly have an effect on each other, yet there looks to be a matter stream between them.

The astronomer got angry and told me they weren't going to throw away theories based on some isolated phenomenon.

In 1966, world renowned astronomer, Halton Arp, collected his observations of 338 such unusual galaxies in a book entitled, "Atlas of Peculiar Galaxies".

Most all of the galaxies presented in the book are of the type you describe.

In most cases, those galaxies and their conjoined companions were observed to have very different red shifts, which caused Arp to conclude that red shift is not an indicator of speed or distance, but an indicator of age.

Naturally, the astronomical community, which had already accepted the Big Bang theory as gospel, thoroughly rejected Arp's findings out of hand, and labeled him a kook heretic. They did so (and continue to do so) despite the clear associations between these objects and the wild variances in their red shifts.

In subsequent decades, thousands of such objects have been added to Arp's original catalog.

The ramifications of these observations can't be overstated. Arp essentially disproved the Big Bang theory.

65 posted on 12/05/2018 1:10:12 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier

That probably explains the apoplexy of the astronomer I asked. Thanks for the info.


66 posted on 12/05/2018 1:13:09 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: ETL
Ordinary matter and energy are believe to be manifestations of each other. E=mc^2

That may be so, but the article is about cosmologists' efforts to unify so-called 'dark matter' and 'dark energy' into a single something.

I see it as just another attempt to force reality to bend around their ad hoc poppycock theories.

67 posted on 12/05/2018 1:21:10 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier
Re: Ordinary matter and energy are believe to be manifestations of each other. E=mc^2

That may be so, but the article is about cosmologists' efforts to unify so-called 'dark matter' and 'dark energy' into a single something.

"Mass-energy equivalence states that mass is concentrated energy. In his theory of special relativity Einstein formulated the equation E=mc^2. There is a tremendous amount of energy in mass. A 20g marble contains as much energy as a 500 kiloton hydrogen bomb, but this energy is very difficult to release. It can be released through matter-antimatter annihilation, when matter and antimatter come together. Nuclear reactions can be understood to release so much more energy than chemical reactions because of the mass changes."

https://www.brightstorm.com/science/physics/nuclear-physics/mass-energy-equivalence/

68 posted on 12/05/2018 1:31:18 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: SuperLuminal

mark


69 posted on 12/05/2018 2:12:45 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: ETL; 1FreeAmerican; A. Patriot; AndrewC; antonia; aristotleman; Bellflower; Boogieman; BraveMan; ...
The latest ad hoc invocation of a magical unseen substance to make the gravity driven universe work is a "silly putty" theory about constantly being created "liquid negative combined energy/matter" on which a push is instantly transformed into a pull and, vice verse, a pull into a push. . . Of course, it’s unseen, and unseeable, just like dark matter and dark energy. . . Right, sure, OK. . . uh, huh. The Electric Plasma Universe theory does not require the invocation of magic to work. . . PING!


Clear Example of a Birkeland Current
"Z" Pinch with Symmetrical Plasmids
seen in Hubble Telescope View of
The Twin Jet Nebula
ELECTRIC UNIVERSE PING!

If you wof water!of ant on or off the Electric Universe Ping List, Freepmail me.

70 posted on 12/05/2018 2:17:11 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot)
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To: SuperLuminal

IMHO, there are a number of intellectual hurdles to be overcome at even the most basic elements of quantum theory to properly identify observed phenomenon.

Too many conclusions of present physical interpretations are premised upon the mathematical tools used to stipulatively describe observations in the past, with present conclusions circular reasoned back to the original premise.


71 posted on 12/05/2018 2:17:30 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: sparklite2
I went to an astronomy lecture and asked at the end why the smaller galaxy of the Whirlpool cluster was red shifted so far back from the big galaxy that they could not possibly have an effect on each other, yet there looks to be a matter stream between them.

Harlton Arp — ‘Seeing Red’ an astronomer’s treatise on quantum red shift and red shift not being related to distance.

Summary - Alignments, Quasars, BL Lac's and Galaxy Clusters

1) Objects which appear young are aligned on either side of eruptive objects. This implies ejection of protogalaxies.
2) The youngest objects appear to have the highest redshifts. This implies that intrinsic redshift decreases as the object ages.
3) As distance from the ejecting central object increases, the quasars increase in brightness and decrease in redshift. This implies that the ejected objects evolve as they travel outward.
4) At about z= .3 and about 400 kpc from that parent galaxy the quasars appear to become very bright in optical and X-ray luminosity. This implies there is a transition to BL Lac Objects.
5) Few BL Lac objects are observed implying this phase is short-lived.
6) Clusters of galaxies, many of which are strong X-ray sources, end to appear at comparable distances to the BL Lac's from the parent galaxy. This suggests the clusters may be a result of the breaking up of a BL Lac.
7) Clusters of galaxies in the range z= .4 to .2 contain blue, active galaxies. It is implied that they continue to evolve to higher luminosity and lower redshift.
8) Abell clusters from z= .01 to .2 lie along ejection lines from galaxies like CenA. Presumably they are evolved products of the ejections.
9) The strings of galaxies which are aligned through the brightest nearby spirals have redshifts z= .01 to .02. Presumably they are the last evolutionary stage of the ejected protogalaxies before they become slightly higher redshift companions of the original ejecting galaxies. (p166-7)

Quantization of Redshifts

The fact that measured values of redshift do not vary continuously but come in steps- certain preferred values- is so unexpected that conventional astronomy has never been able to accept it, in spite of the overwhelming observational evidence. Their problem is simply that if redshifts measure radial components of velocities, then galaxy velocities can be pointed at any angle to us, hence their redshifts must be continuously distributed. For supposed recession velocities of quasars, to measure equal steps in all directions in the sky means we are at the center of a series of explosions. This is an anti-Copernican embarrassment. So a simple glance at the evidence discussed in this Chapter shows that extragalactic astronomy and Big Bang theory is swept away. (p195)

On the theoretical front it has become more persuasive that particle masses determine intrinsic redshifts and that these change with cosmic age. Therefore episodic creation of matter will imprint redshift steps on objects created at different epochs. In addition it appears increasingly useful to view particle masses to be communicated by wave like carriers in a Machian universe. Therefore the possibility of beat frequencies, harmonics, interference and evolution through resonant states is opened up. (p195)

My attitude toward this result is that in a Machian universe there must be some signal carrier for inertial mass coming from distant galaxies. (p202)

In the phenomena of quantization, we have a connection from the redshifts of the quasars, to the redshifts of the galaxies, to the properties of the solar system and finally to the properties of fundamental particles like the electrons. The quantization of physical parameters would seem to be governed by the laws of non-local physics, i.e. like quantum mechanics in which the fundamental parameter appears to be time- for example the repetition rate of a spinning electron. It is clear that we are not running out of problems to solve. In fact, contrary to some rumors that we are reaching an end to physics, the more we learn the more primitive our previous understanding appears, and the more challenging the problems become. (p223)


72 posted on 12/05/2018 2:35:53 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot)
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks. I just put a couple of Arp’s
books on my Amazon wish list for Xmas.


73 posted on 12/05/2018 2:43:21 PM PST by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: DesertRhino; fishtank
“Space is a fabric.”

It is most certainly not. Please detail what this “fabric” is made of. If you say “time”, I will laugh at you.

Logic chain. . .

Space cannot be seen.

If space cannot be seen, it must be made up of invisible things.

Things that disappear can no longer be seen . . .

Things that can no longer be seen are therefore invisible.

Left socks from a pair of socks disappear.

Left socks can no longer be seen and are therefore invisible.

Left socks like all socks are made of fabric.

Ergo, space is made of disappeared, invisible, fabric left socks.

Space is fabric. Tada! QED.

74 posted on 12/05/2018 2:50:07 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot)
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To: ETL
You keep talking about ordinary (i.e., real) matter and energy. The article concerns the hypothetical 'dark energy' and 'dark matter', and cosmologists' attempts to combine them into yet another ad hoc, fantasy substance.

Modern cosmology went off the rails when it abandoned classical physics, in favor of pure mathematics. Their current working models of the universe are a dismal failure, as they do not predict or adequately explain observed phenomena.

When the models fail, they don't apply the scientific method to discover why. They merely invent ever weirder goblins to patch over the shortcomings of their basic theories.

The theory simply CAN'T be wrong, so reality must be something different than what we plainly see.

75 posted on 12/05/2018 3:32:08 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier
You keep talking about ordinary (i.e., real) matter and energy. The article concerns the hypothetical 'dark energy' and 'dark matter'

I know. But if ordinary matter and energy are basically one and the same, it makes sense that the other two might also be. And they are attempting here to somehow connect these other two.

76 posted on 12/05/2018 3:39:54 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

This theory is useless. It doesn’t bolster man-made global warming.


77 posted on 12/05/2018 3:41:03 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

Give them time. They’ll figure out a way.


78 posted on 12/05/2018 3:42:19 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: DesertRhino

It’s not made of time.

It is constructed to be a container for time.

Time exists inside of it.


79 posted on 12/05/2018 4:54:31 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: ETL

What science needs particularly in physics is less theories and more empirical evidence of a kind I surmise will not be seen for generations yet to come, when humans are actually, personally, exploring a universe they now only observe at the most remote distances, and even then translating the meanings of what is observed based on our kindergaten of understanding.

We observe something, which we don’t quite understand, so we develop a theory to explain it, and theory correct or not it continues to be the explanation for what is observed. Of course the observations match the theory - the theory was made for the observation. It’s what I call the circular logic of modern physics.


80 posted on 12/05/2018 5:27:43 PM PST by Wuli
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