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Air Force to Retire Classic B-1 Bombers as Stealthy New B-21s Arrive
Warrior Maven ^
| 11/13/18
| Kris Osborn
Posted on 11/14/2018 5:57:47 AM PST by Cheerio
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To: Cheerio
What are the chances the dem controlled house will fully support 100% funding for The Wall?
To: BBB333
But that’s another 2 years wasted waiting for 2020 and hoping and praying Dems don’t STEAL that election as well.
To: DCBryan1
B-1 stealth bombers.B2 Spirits.....sigh...first post of the AM.
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posted on
11/14/2018 7:15:16 AM PST
by
DCBryan1
(Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
To: HamiltonJay
Seriously folks... tech is great, but why cant we make weapon systems en masse anymore??3 things:
1) Democrats/liberals
2) Unions,
3) Lawyers.
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posted on
11/14/2018 7:16:18 AM PST
by
DCBryan1
(Quit calling them liberals, progs, socialists, or democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!!!!)
To: wita; taxcontrol
"I am told that the B1 does not carry nukes. Is that true?" As I understand it, the B1 was originally designed as a nuclear bomber, but has been used through modifications as a non-nuc bomber in the conventional wars we have been fighting.
The B-1B was designed and fielded as a nuclear delivery system. Around 1991/92 the AF started to experiment with conventional weapons loads and subsequently the B-1B was decertified for use with nuclear weapons and relegated to only conventional weapons use.
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posted on
11/14/2018 7:16:40 AM PST
by
OldMissileer
(Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
To: DCBryan1
Nah, I don’t buy that... Unions were far more powerful in the 40s and 50s and even 60s, and the Military built tons of great weaponry en masse.
To: HamiltonJay
Simple Congress.......thats the answer
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posted on
11/14/2018 7:19:16 AM PST
by
straps
(What a joke...)
To: straps
No, congress appropriates the money, doesn’t build the planes...
Looks like they are planning to buy 100-150 of the b21s with a rough 10-12 year widow.. So that’s a vast improvement over the b1 and b2s... but still nowhere near what we were cranking out in the 50s and 60s. Yes I know they are fare more complicated, but still... its not like the B52’s weren’t cutting edge for their time as well
To: minnesota_bound
Just for some perspective:
B-52H:
Payload - 70,000 pounds
Speed - 650 mph (Mach 0.84)
Inventory (2013) 78
B-2
Payload - 40,000 pounds
Speed - 630 mph (Mach 0.95)
Inventory (2014) 19
B-1B:
Payload - 75,000 pounds (125,000 w/ externals)
Speed 900+ mph (Mach 1.2)
Inventory (2012) 66
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posted on
11/14/2018 7:25:30 AM PST
by
Psalm 73
("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
To: Cheerio
This thread needs a visual.
The B-1.
The B-21.
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posted on
11/14/2018 7:51:31 AM PST
by
Phlap
(REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
To: Cheerio
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posted on
11/14/2018 8:04:43 AM PST
by
PLMerite
("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
To: Psalm 73
IIRC older models B52s carried MUCH more than this over Vietnam. We basically flew the wings off those models. The base design was modified differently than the models we’ve kept.
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posted on
11/14/2018 8:10:16 AM PST
by
JohnBovenmyer
(Waiting for the tweets to hatch!)
To: PLMerite
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posted on
11/14/2018 8:10:33 AM PST
by
PLMerite
("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
To: ExNewsExSpook
B-1 lost its nuclear mission several years ago, to comply with the START agreementand we actually proposed the change.Total stupidity! The type that can result in national suicide.
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posted on
11/14/2018 8:11:47 AM PST
by
The Sons of Liberty
('DEPLORABLE' Charter Member of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy - and DAMN Proud of it!.)
To: Cheerio
The B-1B is the most capable bomber in the world today. And they are nowhere near worn out.
I cannot imagine a decomm of all of them.
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posted on
11/14/2018 8:33:45 AM PST
by
Mariner
(War Criminal #18)
To: HamiltonJay
Seriously folks... tech is great, but why cant we make weapon systems en masse anymore??
Augustine's Law Number XVI: In the year 2054, the entire defense budget will purchase just one aircraft. This aircraft will have to be shared by the Air Force and Navy 3-1/2 days each per week except for leap year, when it will be made available to the Marines for the extra day.
Still wondering????
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posted on
11/14/2018 9:53:57 AM PST
by
Cheerio
( #44, the UNKNOWN Manchurian Candidate)
To: JohnBovenmyer
My understanding is that about a third of the payload was replaced with targeting and other systems.
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posted on
11/14/2018 9:55:09 AM PST
by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: ExNewsExSpook
“If this country elects a Democrat as POTUS in two years, look for a return to the Obama days, with defense being absolutely gutted.”
Single payer is going to turn our military into that of Germany. And they do have the House, very important for budget and spending...so we aren’t even entirely safe now.
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posted on
11/14/2018 10:03:48 AM PST
by
Scott from the Left Coast
(You may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you...)
To: Blue Highway
Horse Hockey!
Trump will compel the D’s to support the military or they will loose their house seats in 2020.
See my tag line...
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posted on
11/14/2018 2:03:37 PM PST
by
BBB333
(The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
To: OldMissileer
i thought it got it’s nuts cut due to the arms treaties
Armament
Hardpoints: 6 external hardpoints for 50,000 pounds (23,000 kg) of ordnance (use for weapons restricted by arms treaties[105][193]) and 3 internal bomb bays for 75,000 pounds (34,000 kg) of ordnance.[194]
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posted on
11/14/2018 6:00:43 PM PST
by
Chode
( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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