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WWII Memorabilia
Jim Macomber

Posted on 10/07/2018 9:20:14 AM PDT by jim macomber

My wife's father's WWII foot locker was stored in her mother's basement. We've finally opened it and examined the contents. I'm wondering if anyone here could tell us what some of these items are.
Her father was apparently in the Signal Corps (E5 or 6) in France late in the war and there are small booklets on how to behave in France and a few related to Zurich.

What I have been able to gather is that his unit couriered officers and information around in small planes.
The most fascinating item to me is a Signal Corps message book --- but it's not the messages inside. On the back cover is scribbled a message from the back seat to the front or vice versa. It reads "If this damn thing conks out, be prepared to jump. There's no place to land around here."
Presumably it didn't conk out but we don't know.

There's also other items in there. Two German flags, swastikas and all, a red arm band with swastika and something I am really curious about: two t-shirts (wife beater/tank top style) with a very martial/nazi symbol on the front --- an eagle, wings spread carrying a swastika in its talons. Any one know what these are - other than regular underwear. They're quite small in size and would really only fit a child. Hitler youth garb??

Also what I would think was an ammo pouch - three compartments with lettering that is not completely readable "Rad Vorten**** Osnabruck 1937" stamped on the reverse of the middle pouch. Any ideas?


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: germanflag; signalcorps; tshurt; wwii
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To: WKUHilltopper

“Most of the those manning the 88 anti-aircraft batteries were Luftwaffe and kids around 12-15.”

My wife’s great uncle was drafted late in the war when in his 60’s...and he manned 88’s in Berlin.


21 posted on 10/07/2018 9:53:51 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bonemaker

RAD is Reich Labor Service. Reichsarbeitsdienst (RAD)

Seen the old films of guys in uniform marching around with shovels on their shoulders? They were members of RAD.


22 posted on 10/07/2018 9:54:45 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: freedumb2003

Smithsonian has no interest in such things. The WWII museum might, but anything with a swastika on it will just go into a drawer and never get public display. Some local historical societies will display such things if they come from an estate of a local resident, but if it has value, someone will likely pocket it and sell it.


23 posted on 10/07/2018 9:55:07 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Thank You Rush

I Pinged Kathy for Him already.


24 posted on 10/07/2018 9:55:18 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Thank You Rush

I Pinged Kathy for Him already.


25 posted on 10/07/2018 9:55:25 AM PDT by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: WKUHilltopper
Seen the old films of guys in uniform marching around with shovels on their shoulders? They were members of RAD.

This guy was a RAD...


26 posted on 10/07/2018 9:57:15 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Bonemaker

Yeah, the old guys also went into anti-aircraft or the Volkssturm (People’s militia). Many of the older guys not on ack-ack where “infantry” and were issued “panzerfaust” (basically an anti-tank bazooka) plus a rifle.

A lot of them died in the Battle of Berlin.


27 posted on 10/07/2018 9:58:04 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


28 posted on 10/07/2018 9:59:03 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Kirkwood

>>The WWII museum might, but anything with a swastika on it will just go into a drawer and never get public display. Some local historical societies will display such things if they come from an estate of a local resident, but if it has value, someone will likely pocket it and sell it.<<

How unfortunate — yes it was of evil they were quite real and what is the point of “never forget” if you put all reminders away?


29 posted on 10/07/2018 10:02:41 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Always believe women except: clinton rape, ellison assault, booker groping, ted kennedy murder)
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To: yarddog
...P-38...

The ubiquitous can opener?

30 posted on 10/07/2018 10:07:08 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: QualityMan

Thanks.


31 posted on 10/07/2018 10:09:25 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: jim macomber

Wow! I told my wife there’d be knowledgeable answers but...I’m overwhelmed. Thank you all. I’ll follow up as best I can. Maybe find a way to post photos other than in the thread. Thanks so much.


32 posted on 10/07/2018 10:10:12 AM PDT by jim macomber ("Bargained for Exchange" "Art & Part" "A Grave Breach" "Sovereign Order " - www.jamesmacomber.com)
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To: Calvin Locke

I don’t remember any of them except I do barely recall Daddy killing a gator in Otter Pond with the Luger. He really was a great shot.


33 posted on 10/07/2018 10:11:00 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

that Luger, along with the P-38, would fire modern 9mm Parabellum cartridges. In fact, the 9mm cartridge was developed by the Germans for the Luger pistol design.

The german sub machine guns of the period MP38 and MP40, also were chambered for the 9mm cartridge.


34 posted on 10/07/2018 10:13:56 AM PDT by QualityMan (The Adults are back in town)
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To: Calvin Locke

It’s a handy screwdriver too.


35 posted on 10/07/2018 10:19:51 AM PDT by wally_bert (I will competently make sure the thing is done incompetently.)
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To: QualityMan

The .45 caliber US M3 “Grease Gun” had a conversion kit to allow it fire the German 9mm Parabellum cartridge.


36 posted on 10/07/2018 10:21:43 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: mabarker1

My son is a highly respected researcher and dealer. His clients include many high end collectors, who buy and sell through him.


37 posted on 10/07/2018 10:25:59 AM PDT by kalee
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To: QualityMan

Around 1987 a whole lot of Lugers were imported. I read somewhere that they came from Russia but am not sure.

I had my neighbor who was a dealer, order one for me. It was described as excellent with non matching numbers. When it arrived I was pleasantly surprised. It was in excellent plus condition and all numbers except the mag did in fact match.


38 posted on 10/07/2018 10:28:00 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: mabarker1
Yes, Zip lock bags by all means. The swastika armband is a pretty ordinary item as far as German WW2 memorabilia goes, the things were produced in the millions. Badges of rank, insignia, Hitler Youth knives, Luftwaffe daggers, publications, etc. are valuable. German uniforms and caps and helmets are the most valuable. The Germans had uniforms for everything and they fetch top dollar.
39 posted on 10/07/2018 10:38:37 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: mabarker1

Absolutely not, they’ll rip you off. Go on line and look up reputable dealers. An expert will tell you what youve got, what is was used for, meant for etc and tell it’s worth.


40 posted on 10/07/2018 10:40:43 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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