Posted on 10/03/2018 2:50:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
While uncovering an impressive destruction level dating to the second half of the ninth century B.C.E., when Gath was the largest of the five cities of the Philistines and perhaps the largest city in the Land of Israel during the Iron Age, excavators found an exceptionally well preserved horned altar reminiscent of the Israelite horned altars described in the Bible (Exodus 27:1–2; 1 Kings 1:50)...
But why does this altar have only two horns, when we know from the Bible and excavated examples that the altars of both the Israelites and, later, the Philistines, typically had four horns?
The fact that the Tell es-Safi/Gath horned altar has only two horns may have to do with the cultural origins of the Philistines. As Louise Hitchcock, senior staff member of the Tell es-Safi/Gath excavations, has suggested, the very motif of the horned altar in the Levant may have been influenced by earlier Minoan “horns of consecration,” symbolic representations of the horns of the sacred bull in Minoan culture. In fact, there is an altar from the Late Bronze Age site of Myrtous Pigadhes in Cyprus that also has only two horns. The unique horned altar from Tell es-Safi/Gath, the earliest stone altar ever found from the land of the Philistines, may be another indication of the Aegean influences on early Philistine culture and quite possibly a hint to their origins.
(Excerpt) Read more at biblicalarchaeology.org ...
> Depends on what you are sacrificing.
Nicely put.
It’s a two-horned altar, according to the experienced archaeologists who excavated it and have seen it firsthand and handled it.
Four-horned altar examples:
http://www.google.com/search?q=four+horned+altar&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&tbm=isch
Nah.
Did the Egyptians say that they settled in moder day Israel?
On a possibly related note, where did the Sea Peoples come from and where did they go?
It's remarkable how often they come up in topics around FR. :^) They didn't exist per se. The Sea Peoples, despite having been mighty enough to blot out empires throughout the Aegean, Anatolia, Near East, and northern Africa, built no cities, left no characteristic graves, weapons, inscriptions, or even rulers over the vanquished -- and most peculiarly of all, left no shipwrecks anywhere. They were invented out of just two references in the late New Kingdom period in Egypt in order to try to make sense of out the mess created by proponents of the conventional pseudochronology.
Nah.
That's one way of looking at it. Another is that they did and they did leave traces which we attribute to another culture of which we don't really know the origins (which is in perhaps what became of the Sea Peoples - they bacame a culture we do know). Probably no way to ever really know.
They may indeed be the "dark matter" of archaeology, the mysterious invisible force that we don't understand but solves problems with existing theories. But I'm less certain than you that they are a figment of the academic mind.
Fine don’t believe your lying eyes. Nice angle the eggspurts snapped the pics at. You don’t think for a minute these scientific clowns don’t distort the facts to support certain agendas? Like getting more grant money?
That’s a four horn altar with one side busted to pieces no one can prove otherwise I call Bs!
No one cares.
Another is that they did and they did leave traces which we attribute to another culture of which we don't really know the origins
As I said, they didn't have a separate existence, and are not some otherwise unknown people. I didn't say they were a figment of imagination, only that they were not some forgotten people who then vanished without a trace (which is, quite literally, the conventional view). And it is easy to see this.
I can’t find any other photos. It would be nice to see the back side of it. How would the altar hold the wood for the sacrifice without two more horns on the back? Do you know of any other links that expound on this find?
The sacrifices may have inovolved the burning of some kind of aromatic plants etc. Overall, I fail to see what the problem is. The four-horned altars are also called Shiloh altars, but there are plenty of examples of two-horned altars, an image search will turn them up.
I took a look at the other two-horned altar they found on Cyprus. It looks nothing like this one. In fact, this one resembles the four horned altars. I’m not being argumentative. Archaeology is a hobby for me. I would just like more information on this.
Sex, drugs and Philistines: A biblical psychedelic scene
Times of Israel | May 28, 2015 | Daniel Bernstein
Posted on 05/30/2015 1:00:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3295125/posts
Agree. That whole side is smashed up.
From the cobwebby recesses of the hard drive, KJV:
(KJV) In Genesis 10:14 the Philistim (presumably Philistines) are said to come from Casluhim, or possibly Pathrusim and Casluhim; in Deuteronomy 2:23 "the Caphtorims, which came forth out of Caphtor" destroyed Avims of Hazerim; in Jeremiah 47:4 the Philistines are described as "the remnant of the country of Caphtor"; in Amos 9:7 has "the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir".
Giving Goliath His Due:The name Goliath, like Achish, is not Semitic, but rather Anatolian (McCarter 1980, 291, Mitchell 1967, 415; Wainwright 1959, 79). Not all agree though; the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia (2:524) proposes that Goliath may have been a remnant of one of the aboriginal groups of giants of Palestine who now were in the employ of the Philistines. [1. Naveh (1985, 9, 13 n. 14) states that Ikausu, the name of the king of Ekron in the seventh century b.c., is a non-Semitic name that can be associated with that of the Achish of Gath in David's time. The name in the seventh century has a shin ending that is non-West Semitic.]
New Archaeological Light on the Philistines
chapter 5 "David's Flight"
by Neal Bierling
foreword by Paul L. Maier
old edition at Amazon
Thanks.
Occasionally being referred to as a Philistine clod.
Now I know what they may have been saying?
But is it good or bad?
The family came out of the Scottish Highlands mid-1700’s.
Can one be a Scott and a Philistine?
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