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1 posted on 07/17/2018 7:01:19 AM PDT by MNDude
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ALL WE NEED IS HILLIARY’s (ILLEGAL) SERVER TO KNOW THE TRUTH

WHERE IS IT?

(Rhetorical, I know it’s probably long gone.)


2 posted on 07/17/2018 7:02:26 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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Because Nobody doesn’t exist, what you need is a Somebody.


3 posted on 07/17/2018 7:04:01 AM PDT by Sparky1776
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At this point, the server is useless for any legal purposes. As for the “Russians” that were indicted, I, for one, believe that they are just as real as unicorns.


4 posted on 07/17/2018 7:06:09 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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Russia,Russia,Russia is a cover for the real leak from the DNC to Wikileaks, his name was Seth Rich.
He was murdered for it.

THAT’S what they want to keep under wraps.


5 posted on 07/17/2018 7:07:25 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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I don't think the indictments themselves are questionable on that basis alone. I'm sure there are tools that can be used to track infiltration attempts into a computer network activity from the outside. If you send an e-mail to someone, for example, who erases it completely from his computer and then destroys his computer, YOU would still have a record of the e-mail traffic ... and there would be multiple intermediate servers for your domain that would also have evidence of it as well.

The BIGGER question I have is this:

Why would the U.S. Justice Department go to such lengths to hold a press conference to announce these twelve indictments of foreign nationals ... and then immediately announce that the case is being handed off to a national security division of the DOJ where the trials are not held in public courtrooms (if they are ever held at all)?

The whole narrative is filled with information from top to bottom that cannot -- and WILL NOT -- ever be verified.

6 posted on 07/17/2018 7:07:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I saw a werewolf drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's.")
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Hewitt is a Cheap Labor propagandist and has been for years.
If you’ll notice, all of the people having a hissy fit are all open borders types.


7 posted on 07/17/2018 7:08:38 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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The announcement of these indictments was deliberately timed by Mueller a few days before President Trump’s summit meeting with Putin. Mueller knows there’s no way he can actually get these Russians into a courtroom. Consequently, there ‘s no reason why he could not have waited on the indictments until after the summit meeting. Mueller made his announcement when he did in an attempt to sabotage the summit and try to make President Trump as uncomfortable as possible going into the meeting.


12 posted on 07/17/2018 7:12:11 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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How about the $Millions Slick Willy took for his “speeches” in Russia? I’m sure the Russian have plenty of video evidence showing Former President Clinton and a room full of Moscow Hookers.


13 posted on 07/17/2018 7:13:47 AM PDT by EC Washington
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Concorde Management responded to Mueller and he is now compelled to.produce discovery.

That’s my understanding.


14 posted on 07/17/2018 7:15:12 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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Another question that hasn't been asked, as far as I know anyway, is if the evidence the indictments are based on leads directly to Putin, why wasn't he indicted?
15 posted on 07/17/2018 7:17:45 AM PDT by Jaxter (Pro Aris et Focis)
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Considering you can fake IP Addresses, I can’t imagine we know for certain where the phishing emails originated.


16 posted on 07/17/2018 7:18:34 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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The only one bringing the farcicle indictments is rush. Maybe someone else has also brought them up but I haven’t heard it. Hewitt, I’ve been done with him for years. I switched him on for 2 minutes this morning. Those 2 minutes was handwringing asking trump’s cabinet not to quit over their bosses gaff yesterday.


17 posted on 07/17/2018 7:19:06 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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I personally don’t believe any of it. I have worked in IT including under DHS and I know damn well that real professional hackers dont leave any direct evidence. Just because you trace something to Russia in general doesn’t mean they would ever be able to trace it directly to an official Russia agent. Even the most wild claims about Putin having people murdered have no hard evidence outside of the circumstantial.

There is no way serious Russian hackers officially employed by the Russia government would ever be directly connected to hacking. If it were that easy we’d see indictments all the time. What happened is they have a list of Russian agents that simply happen to be Russian agents. They didn’t care really because they knew the indictments are toothless and not even designed to target Russia but instead were designed to embarrass and pressure the President. The problem these “intellgence” fucks is they don’t seem to realize how the average American views their subterfuge based on recent history.

It would be different if we didn’t know that the intelligence agencies were corrupt and actively trying to disrupt the election of our President. It would be different if they hadn’t failed us on 911, on Iraq WMDs, on the investigation of Hillary Clinton who they openly said was guilty of a crime but effectively would receive a pass while average joe soldiers were being sent to prison for less. So they expect us to trust them when they ask us to believe they some how proved that a specific list of Russian agents hacked a DNC server as if those agents were hacking in their underwear from a server in their personal bathroom on an unmasked personal internet connection?

Anyone who believes these fucks is an idiot and sadly there are plenty of Republican cold warriors who are idiots yet fawn over the communist Chinese as if they can do no wrong when it is they not the Russians which are our real enemy.


18 posted on 07/17/2018 7:20:21 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Free is just another word for someone else has to pay.)
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When I cancelled a comprimsed credit card last week I cut it up into 8 pieces. Then I gave 2 to the credit administrator in the credit union, put 2 in the Jimmy Johns trash after lunch, threw 2 in the dumpster outside my sons apartment complex, and threw the last 2 in my trash can at home.

I'm pretty sure the hard drives from Hillarys' and the DNC servers are in the same disposition across the nation.

20 posted on 07/17/2018 7:21:25 AM PDT by dartuser
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Crowdstrike looked at it but the dems wouldn’t let the fbi look at it so the fbi took crowdstrike’s word for it.

“On March 20, 2017 during testimony before congress, James Comey stated “CrowdStrike, Mandiant, and ThreatConnect review[ed] the evidence of the hack and conclude[d] with high certainty that it was the work of APT 28 and APT 29 who are known to be Russian intelligence services.”[20] However, the FBI did not independently verify these findings because the DNC refused to give the FBI access to the server.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrowdStrike#Russian_hacking_investigations

I don’t know much about those three companies but I’m thinking, say, $400,000,000.00 would be enough to pay them off to get the results you want.


21 posted on 07/17/2018 7:25:06 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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After over a year, Mueller is finally indicted 12 Russians for hacking the Democrat server. They claim that the FBI nor anyone in the government was ever allowed to look at the Democrat server. So I am very curious to know how you can possibly have an ounce of evidence that 12 people on the other side of the world hacked a server that not a single person involved in their investigation has inspected.

Because the indictments doesn't claim that they hacked Hillary's private server. They charge that they hacked the DNC, DCCC, as well as Clinton's political campaign.

23 posted on 07/17/2018 7:30:43 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Gots to take The Donald down before he actually does shrink the worthless leach that is the federal gub mint.


24 posted on 07/17/2018 7:31:47 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Criminals at F.B.I., Justice Dept, I.R.S and No one taken out in cuffs? Federal gub mint is crappola)
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The main question is just how Mueller came by the twelve names. Do Russian hackers leave their names and addresses on whatever computer they break into?


28 posted on 07/17/2018 7:59:35 AM PDT by odawg
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The question nobody is asking is why the MSM went silent on the findings that forensic analysis of the data transfer metadata show that the DNC emails could not have been accessed at those speeds across the internet from Romania, but had to be done locally via a flash drive in the eastern daylight time zone.

Even the ultra-liberal The Nation magazine believes this hypothesis.

If we are to believe the forensic metadata analysis, then the Russian hacking theory (and resulting indictments) are unsupportable.

-PJ

29 posted on 07/17/2018 8:00:34 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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In case you have not noticed, we have not seen onescintilla of evidence against the Russians, just indictments (indictments are only accusations). We will not see any of them brought to trial. Everything about this Trump-Russia collusion investigation is the same, over a year and absolutely no evidence and nobody is objecting to the waste.


36 posted on 07/17/2018 3:08:28 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (.)
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