Q Anon: 6/20/18 FRiendly FReeper Collaboration to understand Q drops

qanon.pub ^ | 6/20/2018 | FReepers, vanity

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This thread is a friendly collaborative place for FReepers to analyze information and share opinons. FReepers have a wide variety of reasons for investigating Q Anon content; this is not the appropriate place to criticize or badger those who choose to use some of their time in this manner.

If you are new to Q Anon, the three links below provide overviews to help answer the questions, "Who is Q?" and "Why read Q drops?".

Is Trump Staging a Counter-Coup? [Q explained?]>
Note: The above thread has been locked for disruptive comments, but post #1 includes a strong, concise Who/What/Where overview.

Q Anon: A Freeper's post re the "new Parallel Construct that Trump has created"

First post to “Q” ping list. Please read and let me know if you want off or on it

You can locate Q Anon threads by searching the key word "Qanon" using the search window in the upper right of Free Republic's forum page.

If you haven't seen it yet, President John F. Kennedy's excellent speech regarding secret societies, as well as comments about the press, is located at the following link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdMbmdFOvTs

A helpful FReeper passed along the following Youtube link to a good source for concise reviewes of Q drops, Praying Medic:
https://www.youtube.com/user/prayingmedic/videos

Praying Medic also has a a Twitter account:
https://anonsw.github.io/qtmerge

Q "drops" (i.e., posts) can be read with their original formatting on various websites. Sometimes the Q drop websites come under cyber attack or stop updating. This week, I've been using the following link:
https://qanon.pub

QProofs provide evidence that Q Anon is a legitimate source of information, has access to President Trump, and is serving President Trump's agenda:
https://www.qproofs.com/home.html

Q drops (i.e., posts) often use unfamiliar acronyms. Swordmaker maintains a list of acronymsto help FReepers understand Q drop text. The master list of acronyms is stored on Swordmaker's profile page. It's really great to have a convenient place to find definitions and explanations of terms used in the drops. Here is the link:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~swordmaker/index

Within our threads, Swordmaker posts updates featuring the latest terms added to the lexicon - you can find his updates on threads by looking for this silver Q graphic:

SkyPilot has been collecting Q Anon information into one interesting, detailed, "story of Q" post which I'll place here:
https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3633313/posts?page=163#163

Here's a handy link for those who would like to read what people on Twitter are Tweeting about Q Anon:
Click to read what Tweeters are saying about Q Anon

For those who want a little uplifting video which outlines the big picture that we are now striving for, here's a video from 2016 in which candidate Donald Trump outlines what he wants for Americans and America and his promises if elected.
This Video Will Get Donald Trump Elected

If you'd like to communicate your support for President Trump's efforts to "red-pill" Americans, you may want to use the link Hoosiermama posted which provides you with and email page - you can send the president an email. Here's the link:
Email support for President Trump

[philman_36]

...answer the damn question.
Which question is that, Jack?

How are we going to restore the Constitutional Republic if the adherents have such a low level of personal decorum and refuse to engage in discussions in an ethical manner?
It's looking more and more like through bloodshed. You don't generally find much conversation or ethical behavior on the battlefield.

Do you honestly think that a Conservative can win California in the rest of our years (say 2050 to pick a nice round number by which year I will likely be just a memory).
Where is the question mark? I can't tell if you're asking a question or making a statement.

[Jack Black]

Here you go:
?
Feel free to append that onto the last sentence of my previous message, if that helps you understand my meaning better.

But, in your own way you have answered the larger question. You expect that it's going to take "bloodshed" of some sort to restore the Republic.

That's a sad thing to contemplate. But we've been contemplating it for a long time here. I've been the co-owner of the Civil War II ping list for maybe 15 years now.

Even that option I see slipping further away.

I think the best that can reasonably be hoped for is a fracturing of the USA, similar to the USSR's break up, where some "captive states" manage to time a break-away just right and pull it off.

Like Poland, Estonia, Hungary and the Czech Republic did in 1989. Of course many other Soviet States didn't make the break and are now stuck in the reconstituted Totalitarian Russian Empire.

And even that may not occur. The USSR system failed, ours seems to drag along, I'm not sure we will ever get the "1989" moment here, and without it, I'm not sure any State will be able to break away.

I would like to see more radical parties in the States.

The Solidarity example is a good one, that movement was key to winning the restoration of Poland. Sadly, I don't see much sign of it.

Our one great hope is Trump, who came out of nowhere and won an amazing victory. He's awesome, but so many stand against him. It's hard to believe he can overcome everything.

It's been so infuriating to watch the DOJ and FBI repeatedly refuse to answer subpoenas from the House, as if it's optional, and they are a independent 4th branch of Government.

That's just one example. He won by a couple hundred thousand strategically placed votes in 2016. I don't know that he will be able to do that again. The DNC cheating machine will be in high gear.

Interesting times.

Ciao, for now.

[Jack Black]

Yes, the term “progressive conservatism” is in fairly common use. I hadn’t encountered it much, seeing RINO as the more common term here. (Or GOPe, which returned over 2.17 million results, or about 28 times more common, but still it’s out there, I will concede.)

Do you differentiate McCain’s “Progressive Republican” ideology as different from your every-day RINO or GOPe type?.

Honestly he seems interchangeable with so many of them: Boehner, McConnell, Lindsey.

I will concede that there may be some nuances between these three terms that I don’t know.

Mitt seemed to have previously been a Democrat in his positions, but by the time he ran for POTUS he was LARPing as a “Conservative”.

They are all pretty useless. Very few stand outside things. I appreciate Nunes for at least trying to get to the truth. He’s already announced he’s leaving Congress at the end of his term. It must be incredibly frustrating if you are there to do good, to be surrounded by these hustlers and grifters masquerading as patriots.

[CJ Wolf]

Neither am I. You are correct!

[philman_36]

Here you go: ?
Ah, you're playing the comic book character The Riddler. Got it.

Feel free to append that onto the last sentence of my previous message, if that helps you understand my meaning better.
Why don't you amend your own reply?

You expect that it's going to take "bloodshed" of some sort to restore the Republic.
That's a sad thing to contemplate.

Do you consider the blood shed to establish this nation a sad thing as well?

I would like to see more radical parties in the States.
Really? You and your generalities!
Could you clarify that statement? Do you mean something like a Marxist party or a Communist party?
Those are both pretty radical, but are they radical enough for you?

[philman_36]

Ciao, for now.

[philman_36]

The Solidarity example is a good one...

Good thing you used the Polish example...

Solidarity (United States)
Solidarity is a revolutionary multi-tendency socialist organization in the United States, associated with the journal Against the Current. Solidarity is an organizational descendant of the International Socialists, a Third Camp Marxist organization which argued that the Soviet Union was not a "degenerated workers' state" (as orthodox Trotskyists argue) but rather "bureaucratic collectivism," a new and especially repressive class society.[1]
Solidarity describes itself as "a democratic, revolutionary socialist, feminist, anti-racist organization."[2] Its roots are in strains of the Trotskyist tradition but has departed from many aspects of traditional Leninism and Trotskyism. It is more loosely organized than most "democratic centralist" groups, and it does not see itself as the vanguard of the working class or the nucleus of a vanguard. It was formed in 1986 from a fusion of the International Socialists, Workers Power, and Socialist Unity. The former two groups had recently been reunited in a single organization, while the last was an expelled fragment of the Socialist Workers Party (SWP). Solidarity's name was originally in part an homage to Solidarność — an independent labor union in Stalinist Poland which, in Solidarity's view, had challenged the Soviet Union from the left. As of its 2011 convention, Solidarity is a sympathizing organization of the official Fourth International. [3]

[ROCKLOBSTER]

red pills around gender

Words have a gender, people have a sex.

red pills around “conservatism” and democracy

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner. We are a republic.

[Jack Black]

Of course, just to be clear I never did say that. But your deeply invested in your narrative, so, carry on.

[Jack Black]

So, in your little world the word 'gender' is used only the way you like it used, and not any other way. Or, you know, the way it's defined in the dictionary.

2. a : sex. the feminine gender

Was "Alice in Wonderland" your favorite book as a child?

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner.

Nice one! I've never, ever heard that one before. Really!!

We are a republic.

Well if you are following the discussion and you might want to add "Constitutional" in front of Republic to avoid rehashing the last 100 posts.

[philman_36]

But your (sic) deeply invested...

All this time here and you still don't know how to use "Preview"?
Oh, wait...that's all you and Preview wouldn't have helped. Never mind.
Tsk, tsk. Such a shame.

Your, you're.
There, their.

[Jack Black]

Thanks, that's good to know.

I've never heard of the US outfit of that name before. I'll try to use the Polish word "Solidarność" even though it's hell to get those accents marks over the last two letters on this keyboard.

[philman_36]

Whether Polish or American, Solidarity is comprised of Socialists.
Why am I not surprised that you think it would be good for America?
(rhetorical, no need to answer)

[philman_36]

...my last university class was sometime in the early 1980s.

Let me guess...your major wasn't English.

[Jack Black]

Could you clarify that statement? Do you mean something like a Marxist party or a Communist party?

No. Given the context (I'm here on FR discussing conservatism, etc.) I would hope that's pretty obvious.

Those are both pretty radical, but are they radical enough for you?

Look, the goal is fixing America, not turning us into Venezuela II. Leftism is the wrong cause, the wrong idea - actually proven wrong over and over again.

What I'd like too see is a party, perhaps in a particular that are more radical in "no compromise" positions on restoring America. I mean if we are even contemplating bloodshed shouldn't we be organizing groups that are expressly pro Constitution and B.o.R., or strongly advocating for other Conservative positions, instead of putting up with the "Progressive Conservatives" (nice term, thanks) that have taken over the GOP and seem quite resistant to being expelled or replaced, despite our best efforts?

(I started going to Tea Party rallies and trying to elect more faithful candidates as part of that movement in 2009, like many others here. We had some success in the elections, sort of, but still nothing has really changed. Certainly no hope of repealing even one of the big unconstitutional programs I've rattled off a few times on this thread. (Social Security, Medicaid ...)

Regardless of what one thinks about the motivations of the South in the Civil War, they did effectively organize and eventually secede.

It's my opinion that secession might not be met with force if attempted now.

Imagine Hawaii, deciding they wanted to return to independence. I'm not sure what the leftist argument would be for forcing them to stay. And, seeing as everything in American government is decided using leftist thinking and leftist emotional appeals (see the current fake border crisis, for instance) .,.. well the USA might just have to let them go.

At which point the case for holding on to Wyoming, Montana and the Dakotas (for instance) or Texas is much, much weaker.

I know the idea of splitting America up is anathema to many, but again I go back to California. I think the split has already happened at the meta-political level. If we don't separate eventually the entire USA will be Californicated.

To get back to your other question, of course we honor the Revolutionary War dead for their sacrifice and heroism, but yes, it's still sad so many men had to die to earn our freedom. It would have been better if we could have achieved the same outcome without the war.

That wasn't possible in 1776, but maybe it is in 2018, and we should all try to find some way if it is. I am (I guess along with you) pretty convinced that another election cycle where the GOP holds the House and Senate (while clearly preferable to the alternative) isn't going to result in substantive change. Certainly nothing that is going to return the Constitution to the role of highest law it is intended to be.

[Jack Black]

It's just a convenient dodge you have, I guess. Instead of having an actual discussion of ideas you are nitpicking apostrophes.

I ask a question without a question mark and you don't answer it.

You know this is a BBS, not the second edition of The Sunday Times. It's sad to see that you are so pedantic and unwilling to answer even basic questions or engage in meaningful conversation.

Is this what passes for quality Freepin' these days? I don't get it.

[philman_36]

Nice post, but I don’t put much stock in conjecture and supposition.

[philman_36]

I’m just ‘yanking your chain’ to watch you squirm.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

The Alt Right does not believe in the general supremacy of any race, nation, people, or sub-species.

The KKK is RAT...to the bone...and from its very founding, by Confederate veterans. Its purpose was to keep black people from voting for Republicans.

[Jack Black]

Polish Solidarity was one of the most important tools used by the Polish people to tear down Communism, a totalitarian system that held them in bondage.

What ever ideology they may have professed at the time, it was at best secondary, and likely a ruse, used to advance the greater cause of Polish independence. Once independent the Polish people have moved steadily to the right, electing the PIS party today.

What ever their nominal philosophy they embraced, or pretended to embrace to gain the confidence of their Russian occupiers, they, as a group, did more to destroy oppressive leftism and restore Freedom than almost any American group I can think of in the recent era. That would include the GOP after Reagan, or perhaps Bush 1, although he was extremely and unnecessarily conciliatory towards the USSR at the crucial moment of their failure.

I did support the goals of Soladarnosc at the time, and am still proud of it. Damn glad the commies are gone out of Poland, wonder how the hell we get them out of the USA.