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norwalkreflector. ^ | 6/1/18 | ZOE GRESZLER

Posted on 06/01/2018 8:44:10 PM PDT by Kartographer

Holly Mckenzie considered her family’s two pit bull dogs her “best friends,” having made memories over the past three years of walking them, playing with them, cuddling them and even sleeping in the same bed together.

On Sunday though, Mckenzie said it was like a switch went off in the normally “cuddly, sweet” dogs. The Norwalk woman said one minute she was petting them and the next she was fighting for her life as they literally tried to rip her apart.

(Excerpt) Read more at norwalkreflector.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: chet99; doggieping; dogofpeace; dogs; maul; pitbull; pitbulls; snap; switch
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To: healy61; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Kartographer; BBell; Governor Dinwiddie

http://www.animals24-7.org/2015/11/10/the-science-of-how-behavior-is-inherited-in-aggressive-dogs/

Article above is an excerpt of the book by Alexandra Semyonova, “The Science of How Behavior is Inherited in Aggressive Dogs”

” . . .Kathelijne Peremans, DVM discovered this by studying two different populations of impulsively aggressive dogs. Each dog had executed one or more attacks without the classical preceding warnings, and the severity of the attacks was out of all proportion to environmental stimuli. Peremans found a significant difference in the frontal and temporal cortices of these dogs, but not in the subcortical areas, compared to normal dogs. Peremans also found significant dysfunctions of the serotonergic systems among these dogs. Serotonergic dysfunction has been widely shown in many different species to be connected to abnormal, impulsive aggression.

Peremans studied dogs of various breeds, selected purely on the basis of their behavior. Peremans was not interested in implicating any particular breed, but rather in finding the mechanism behind the behavior in any dog it occurred in. She found that all of the dogs with a history of abnormal impulsive aggression shared the same physical abnormalities in the brain. The gender of the dog made no difference. Neither did whether the dog was castrated or spayed.

Heritability of behavior

” . . .The heritability of abnormal aggression in certain breeds of dogs can no longer be denied. The bodies of these dogs have been selected to execute a killing bite more efficiently than other breeds. These dogs share physical conformation to the task of killing, including exaggerated jaw muscles, heavy necks and shoulders, and body mass that makes defense against an attack much more difficult. Among people who want dogs who can kill, these are the breeds of choice because they are physically more fit for it than other breeds.

Dogo Argentino
Behavioral conformation

But breeders also selected for behavioral conformation. To perform well, a fighting dog had to attack without provocation or warning, and to continue attacking regardless of the response of the other animal. Bull and bear-baiting dogs had to be willing to attack in the absence of the species-specific signs that normally provoke aggression, responding to the mere presence of another animals, and not stopping in response to external stimuli. The Dogues du Bordeaux used to guard extended farmlands in France, the Boerbulls used similarly in South Africa, and the fugitive slave-chasing dogs of Latin America, such as the Dogo Argentino and Fila Brasiliero, all were selected to specifically for a propensity to kill.

As they selected for performance, breeders could not know exactly which physical changes they were selecting for. But research now shows that selection for aggressive performance includes consistently selecting for very specific abnormalities in the brain. These abnormalities appear in many breeds of dog as an accident or anomaly, which breeders then attempt to breed out of the dogs. In the case of the aggressive breeds, the opposite occurred. Rather than excluding abnormally aggressive dogs from their breeding stock, breeders focused on creating lineages in which all the dogs would carry the genes causing them to reliably exhibit the desired impulsive aggressive behavior.”


61 posted on 06/02/2018 1:18:12 AM PDT by Norski
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To: familyop; OldMissileer

Ah. I knew that there was a name or two I forgot to include on my last post. I hope you find it of interest.


62 posted on 06/02/2018 1:27:47 AM PDT by Norski
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To: txnativegop

I’ve encountered pit bull religionists and studied them. They’re slippery. Some of them like to make friends with corrupt, drug-addicted junior cops or otherwise try to set their victims up. They’re really vain.

Consider trying to get some like-minded friends trained and armed if possible. Get self-defense insurance (CCW Safe or one of the others). Carry body cams or smart phones, at least, for taking video of a situation. Get trained with any nonlethal weapons that are legal, and carry them (pepper spray, taser or whatever). If legal for you, training, dog anatomy, concealed carry, and consider something less penetrating. 9mm with much early expansion will work, or even .380., in case their are innocent human bystanders.

You get the picture. The owners are like coyotes. Treat them accordingly. Use their vanity. Don’t let them get away.


63 posted on 06/02/2018 1:27:50 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: OldMissileer
See comment #63. I had an encounter with some of those creeps. It was obvious that they were organized and planned in advance. Hope that helps. More advice or experiences would be welcome.


64 posted on 06/02/2018 1:32:28 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

https://www.nationalpitbullvictimawareness.org/pit-bull-lobby/

THE PIT BULL LOBBY

Excerpt from Pit Bulls – Five Part Series , La Presse, Montreal
Investigative report on the Montreal pit bull ban and the influence of the pit bull lobby
By Marie-Claude Malboeuf, August 13, 2017

English translation: plus.lapresse.ca
French: Qui Veut Sauver Les Pitbulls
Also see: http://blog.dogsbite.org/2016/10/montreal-pit-bull-ban-veterinary-report-pit-bull-lobby.html

WHO IS PULLING THE STRINGS? The US pet industry is worth 16 billion dollars. Without pit bulls to sell, to rescue, to rehabilitate, to care for and to feed, a lot of people would see their revenues plunge, denounced Jeffrey Borchardt, who lost his baby when he was torn from the arms of his babysitter by two pit bulls. Since this tragedy, the American DJ and other victims have worked to expose the gears of the powerful pit bull promotion lobby. Who pulls the strings? Portrait of a tightly woven network.

Level one: Financing source
ANIMAL FARM FOUNDATION
Run by an American millionaire, Animal Farm Foundation has for its motto: “Equality for pit bulls.” The pressure group devotes itself entirely to combatting against any regulation targeting its dogs. After inheriting a fortune from her father, Jane Berkey, who also owns a literary agency, turned over at least $6 million to her group, $2.85 million in 2013, according to government records. She pays 9 employees (one of whom, the director, makes more than $100,000 a year) and finances numerous groups that share her philosophy.

Level two: The researchers
NATIONAL CANINE RESEARCH COUNCIL (NCRC)
To produce studies, AFF bought a private research body in 2007. The acquisition was kept secret until the victims’ group Dogsbite discovered this during litigation. . . .

More at link.


65 posted on 06/02/2018 1:37:18 AM PDT by Norski
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To: Norski

Yes. Please add me to your ping list. See my last two comments, #63 and #64. Okay, or too off-putting in any way?

The information is not very organized, yet, and some of it best pertains to people in rural areas. Will try to tailor some advice for people in suburban and urban areas, too, although the more dangerous dogs are outlawed in essence in some of the larger cities. There’s much more information to add and organize.

Comment #60 was somewhat meant in humor, of course. ;-)


66 posted on 06/02/2018 1:38:27 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Norski

Very good info in comment #65. Thanks. It might be a good idea to post it in more threads, so that others won’t miss it.


67 posted on 06/02/2018 1:59:24 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

Very well. I will do so. Thank you.


68 posted on 06/02/2018 2:01:02 AM PDT by Norski
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To: StolarStorm
Not sure who is worse , pitbulls or their trashy owners. ditto. I don't care who you are, even Caesar the dog guy is trash to me because he owns pit bulls.
69 posted on 06/02/2018 3:03:54 AM PDT by Ikeon (WhAaat? i often wonder how many people would starve to death if I quit my job and didn't pay taxes?)
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To: Norski

Merritt Clifton

“Around the world, societies that practice animal husbandry are desensitized societies.
The abuse of animals inevitably spills over into the treatment of women and children.
Polygamy, forced marriage, female genital mutilation, and slavery persist
in many of the very regions that Heifer Project International serves, for example,
as extensions of common agricultural practice to those of our own species who are least able to protect themselves.


70 posted on 06/02/2018 3:19:50 AM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: Equine1952

Great answer on hostile situations.

The lawsuit response is also significant.
Gun Control Kills.
If more defenders were not reluctant to carry a gun, due to lawsuit threat, even a loud shot into the ground, in the city, could deter a pit bull.

Bad lawsuits attack good people merely protecting themself, which is why gun control fails.


71 posted on 06/02/2018 3:35:58 AM PDT by TheNext
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To: Norski
Merritt Clifton

Michigan stats confirm hunting, child abuse link

Obviously hunting must be banned

72 posted on 06/02/2018 3:36:39 AM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: wardaddy

Exactly. You ban Pit Bulls, people can get dogs like Caucasians or Kangals that are way more powerful than a Pit Bull. There is an overabundance of Pit Bulls. The shelters are loaded with with them. Nothing compares in the shelters or on sites like Petfinder. There are so many and some from terrible cases (like the two in this story who had previously attacked). I maintain that spay/neuter laws would be helpful with Pit Bull overpopulation.


73 posted on 06/02/2018 3:43:28 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Truthoverpower

I don’t believe those are pit bulls at 120 pounds. Pits are about half that size. Maybe those dogs are mastiffs?


74 posted on 06/02/2018 3:43:35 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: OldMissileer
I have read many of their posts, including here on FR, that they would kill whomever protected themselves from their precious Fido

Links to FR posts that will confirm your acccusation, please.

75 posted on 06/02/2018 3:46:17 AM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: Truthoverpower

If the switch goes off, it won’t matter if the owner is there or not - may make it even worse if they decide to “protect” him....


76 posted on 06/02/2018 3:47:13 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrite<i> Yet anoths who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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To: hirn_man
‘guns don’t kill people, people kill people’.

Dogs don't kill people irresponsible dog owners kill people.

Guns don't kill people irresponsible gun owners kill people.

77 posted on 06/02/2018 3:58:08 AM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: familyop
pit bull religionists


78 posted on 06/02/2018 4:00:24 AM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: Norski
Merritt Clifton

“Around the world, societies that practice animal husbandry are desensitized societies.
The abuse of animals inevitably spills over into the treatment of women and children.
Polygamy, forced marriage, female genital mutilation, and slavery persist
in many of the very regions that Heifer Project International serves, for example,
as extensions of common agricultural practice to those of our own species who are least able to protect themselves."

Obviously, Animal Husbandry must be banned.

If you don't agree then you support polygamy, forced marriage, female genital mutilation, and slavery.

79 posted on 06/02/2018 4:08:28 AM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: Ikeon

If you think...’even Caesar the dog guy is trash to me because he owns pit bulls’... you might be an irrational bigot.
Proceed to your nearest mental health care provider or faith counsellor for immediate assistance.


80 posted on 06/02/2018 4:25:32 AM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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