Posted on 02/08/2018 2:12:16 PM PST by CincyRichieRich
I'm an investor, and like most here, overwhelmed with the sources to read, the Q Anon stuff, the stimuli, the conspiracies...and now, a few days of stock market drops - including today's 1000 pt drop. I'd like to discuss with anyone who will participate, as to causes, where from here, etc.
Is the uncertainty fed by him hiding.?
Let him just appear and be confident .
Glad my post was helpful. A minor correction on the link. It should be...
https://wiki.earlyretirementextreme.com/w/index.php?title=Permanent_Portfolio
If you have any questions feel free to drop me a line.
Dollar cost averaging -— the market is the long-game. I view this as every time I get paid, my 401k shares are bought at a lower price when the market falls.
It’s all good!
Now that the Russian narrative has failed.
The Deep State is playing it’s next card to wreck the economy or President Trump’s #1 thing going for him.
You have to get into understanding how the Central Banking system also known Fraction Reserve Banking works to better understand what is happening.
To save you a lot of time and not going down that rabbit hole. The Stock Market is totally rigged. The Globalists/Establishment/Deep State/Centralist are pissed at President Trump and now they are trying to destroy the economy.
There is no reason for the market to be crashing right now because the economic news has been OUTSTANDING. You mentioned Janet Yellen being replaced on Monday and THAT is a part of it. Yellen was a Globalist stooge.
Keep in mind too. When there was a mass market sell off during both Obama and Bush. The very same Central Banks froze the sell off for the day and then resumed it the next, but pumped money into the economy. Don’t forget about Tarp, Quantum Easing I, II and unlimited during the Obama Administration.
To go back to your original question. YES the market is being manipulated. It’s one of the last cards to play in the for the demons deck. I just hope POTUS is making adjustments ASAP to stop this manipulation.
Mark my words...it’s controlled algorithms.
Ahhh, good point. Agreed.
This rising rate market is more likely to resemble 1952, not 82.
This has a political angle.
Janet Y threw a hand grenade due to her being a Lefty .
The fact the next Fed meeting is not until March will brew more
uncertainity .
The Fed Head needs to be outfront here .
Wall Street.
What goes up must come down
You are correct in the short term, deficit spending is classic Keynesian stimulus. The long term on deficits is that sooner or latter you have to choose between guns, butter, and servicing the debt.
DJIA:
NOV 21, 2014: 17,810
NOV 27, 2015: 17,799 (-0.06% over the previous year, Obama's New Normal)
NOV 04, 2016: 17,888 (+0.52% over the previous year, Obama's New Normal)
NOV 08, 2016 - Donald Trump elected President...
NOV 24, 2017: 23,558 (+31.6% over the previous year, since Trump's election)
FEB 08, 2018: 23,860 (still higher than the massive 31.6% gain since Trump's election)
It's a correction. They happen. Don't let the media talk us back down into Obama's "New Normal". 26,000 was pretty, and it will be back.
This.
You don’t lose shares until you sell them. Hold and the value will return.
I saw a big, red blurb at the Drudge Report that was written to spread panic. Checked the Dow right then, and it showed a little over 300 points down. No big deal.
Other publications that appeal to Democrats also published headlines written to make readers hysterical. The Dow dropped after the hysteria was pushed by the media.
It’s an anti-Trump push. It shouldn’t go very far, but how far depends on how much money the shorters of socialism have and how much the media can push the panic.
If the markets continue to fall for long, the Democrats might be successful at getting majorities in Congress this year and impeaching the President. That’s what’s going on.
Cincy - you won’t get better advice than what NRx just gave you. From anyone. Investing isn’t hard, and it’s not complicated. My only mild disagreement with NRx is his take on gold, but I understand his reasoning.
I suspect that it’s mostly investment managers who have many government office and big corporate office employees as clients. Remember how they were allowed to push oil markets a few years ago before being discovered and checked?
It’s up to conservative investors to either hold fast or give in to the hysteria.
I’m not qualified to give financial advice and am not intending to do so, but the study over the past 15 years or so of economic history and effects on politics of nations has been fascinating at times.
The Fed pumped a trillion dollars a year of “quantitative easing” into the market and did not raise interest rates during the entire duration of the Hussein regime.
Now that Trump is in office they turned off the QE spigot and cranked up the interest rates.
Any questions?
Thanks you.
Maybe this will help. Consumer spending and business revenues have been higher through a period that is usually a lull. Unemployment is also low. Granted, markets rode unnaturally high for years before the real optimism of the Trump presidency.
The real economy is something for investors to be happy about (good new tax law, new business, more activity). What they do with it while investing is up to them.
The Dow future is up 101 points, but it’s very early in the night’s trading. Maybe check it first thing in the morning—that and the Asian markets.
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