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British Museum claims French artist Rodin proves why Parthenon Marbles should stay in Britain
Greek City Times ^ | January 15, 2018 | GCT Team

Posted on 01/18/2018 5:15:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv

The idea is to show how the headless figures taught Rodin that the body could express emotion, as shown in his masterpiece 'The Kiss' and because he never visited Greece, experts say he may have picked up the idea from some of his 15 visits to the British Museum. This, it is argued by British Museum, shows why the museum is the right setting for the Marbles, acquired from the ruins of the Parthenon by Lord Elgin and brought to Britain about 200 years ago.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: elginmarbles; godsgravesglyphs; greece; lordelgin; parthenon; rodin
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1 posted on 01/18/2018 5:15:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; pax_et_bonum; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
The idea is to show how the headless figures taught Rodin that the body could express emotion, as shown in his masterpiece 'The Kiss' and because he never visited Greece, experts say he may have picked up the idea from some of his 15 visits to the British Museum. This, it is argued by British Museum, shows why the museum is the right setting for the Marbles, acquired from the ruins of the Parthenon by Lord Elgin and brought to Britain about 200 years ago.
I hate to jump into this controversy, but that makes no ************* sense.

2 posted on 01/18/2018 5:16:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

A better reason is that the Muslim rulers of Greece at that time were recycling ancient artwork into building materials. Those marbles survived because the British kept them out of Muslim hands.


3 posted on 01/18/2018 5:21:02 PM PST by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: SunkenCiv

It used to be that the Brits could claim, “We saved them from destruction by the Muslims, and we’re going to keep them.” But I’m not sure how much longer that will be true.


4 posted on 01/18/2018 5:21:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Fai Mao

I posted mine before I saw yours. I hope the Muslims won’t get their hands on them again.


5 posted on 01/18/2018 5:22:37 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SunkenCiv

I am usually in favor of Colonial powers, and have no doubt that their being in the British Museum was a good thing. Still I think they should be returned to Greece.

I also think South Carolina should return the body of Osceola to Florida.


6 posted on 01/18/2018 5:43:34 PM PST by yarddog
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To: SunkenCiv

I always think of a quote from an old Three Stooges short.

Larry Fine: “Is he crooked”

Moe Howard: “Crooked! the guys done more chiseling than Rodin!”


7 posted on 01/18/2018 5:48:19 PM PST by Bobalu (12 diet Cokes and a fried chicken...)
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To: yarddog
Yeah, the less ya have to dust around, the better.

8 posted on 01/18/2018 6:06:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Bobalu

:^)


9 posted on 01/18/2018 6:06:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Fai Mao; Cicero

The Venetians shelled the Parthenon and set off explosions in the ammo the Turks had stored in or near it, and the explosion did much of the damage.

The rest of the damage was done over a period of several generations by the British Museum, because the marbles looked dirty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_Marbles


10 posted on 01/18/2018 6:19:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

True, that. But the Venetians wouldn’t have had to shell it if the Turks weren’t using the top of the Parthenon hill as a fortress. And if they hadn’t stored ammunition in it.


11 posted on 01/18/2018 6:26:45 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SunkenCiv

That is probably the lamest PC explanation of the year. They return to Greece, they will end up destroyed by islamists as European culture is once again erased. Of course, if we pretend that there are no borders and no culture is permanent, and all populations should be fluid, then Greece has little real claim to any ancient treasure. One world vs nationalism collides with reality again.


12 posted on 01/18/2018 6:29:17 PM PST by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: blueplum
If they go back to Greece, fewer people will see them. But London may become too dangerous a place to visit.

Not to worry...there are perfectly good replicas in Nashville.

13 posted on 01/18/2018 6:37:19 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: SunkenCiv

Rodin: The Kiss

http://www.musee-rodin.fr/en/collections/sculptures/kiss


14 posted on 01/18/2018 6:48:25 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Greeks are upset because they lost their marbles.


15 posted on 01/18/2018 6:52:52 PM PST by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: Cicero; blueplum

Way to miss the point.

Another twenty years and the Greeks threw off the Turkish yoke. There was no ISIS back then gratuitously blowing up ****.

The Venetians didn’t worry about the structure at all, and shot at it with cannon.

The British are clinging to them as part of their past glory, kinda like the way they undermined Rhodesia because it hadn’t declared independence right, and it’s obvious where that led.

No one except the Greeks care passionately about them, and the sculptures are part of *their* heritage.


16 posted on 01/18/2018 7:00:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

There’s a wonderful Rodin museum in Philadelphia.

http://www.rodinmuseum.org/492-518.html

They have a copy of his Gates of Hell.

Thanks so much, SunkenCiv. Sculpture is another one of my passions.

And, yes, the Parthenon Marbles should stay in London. Just how are people to understand great art and history if every artifact has to be returned to its country of origin?


17 posted on 01/18/2018 7:00:18 PM PST by mairdie
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To: SunkenCiv

The Elgin Marbles are not just some artifact found in some country years ago.

They are part of what most people consider the most beautiful building every built. It is not as magnificent as some but for sheer form and beauty, I agree. They fit the Parthenon like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.


18 posted on 01/18/2018 7:13:24 PM PST by yarddog
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To: seawolf101

:^)

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/.../parthenon-sculptures-british-museum -controversy/

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2441103.stm


19 posted on 01/18/2018 7:24:14 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

And I’m waithing to hear why the have the right to the rock of Gibraltar.


20 posted on 01/18/2018 7:27:31 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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