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In Raiders stadium deal, Nevada unable to tax team, fans for 30 years
The Washington Times ^ | January 14, 2018 | Jeff Mordock

Posted on 01/14/2018 5:43:51 PM PST by jazusamo

Nevada taxpayers shelled out $750 million to build a stadium for the soon-to-be Las Vegas Raiders — and the deal may prevent the state from being able to recoup that money by imposing new taxes on the NFL team.

An unusual provision in the Raiders agreement with the state allows the team, currently playing its final seasons in Oakland, to break the lease and look for another home if Nevada attempts to impose new taxes over the next three decades on the team, stadium, fans or players. That includes visiting teams and fans as well.

The provision applies to any “targeted tax” aimed at collecting revenue specifically from players or fans. It would not protect the team or its fans from any new taxes applied generally on businesses or individuals across Nevada, however.

Nevada could impose a tax on all sports tickets but couldn’t impose one specifically on stadiums larger than 40,000 seats, because it would only levied against Raiders’ stadium.

A separate agreement from the master lease, the targeted tax provision, is part of a series of papers that still needs approval by NFL owners and the Las Vegas Stadium Authority before any deal is approved. A final vote is scheduled for March.

Michael Leeds, a Temple University economist who has argued against the use of taxpayer funds to build sports stadiums, said the targeted tax provision goes beyond anything he has ever seen.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Sports
KEYWORDS: california; lasvegas; lasvegasraiders; mafia; michaelleeds; nevada; nfl; oakland; raiders; stadium; taxgiveaway
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To: jazusamo

When are they going to put slot machines in the concourses?


21 posted on 01/14/2018 6:22:09 PM PST by PAR35
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To: jazusamo

Burn it!!!


22 posted on 01/14/2018 6:27:00 PM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: jazusamo

We need to put an end to these stadium shakedowns.

Let the billionaires build their own damn sports palaces.


23 posted on 01/14/2018 6:29:01 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: PAR35

24 hour town, legal gambling, legal prostitution, plenty of drugs and shady activity, the Raiders bringing in 53 multi millionaires with their posses and entourages ...what could go wrong?


24 posted on 01/14/2018 6:30:07 PM PST by Baynative ( "If you don't have a seat at the table, you're on the menu.")
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To: jazusamo

30 years? In Georgia, they help them build a new stadium after 20 years.


25 posted on 01/14/2018 6:49:59 PM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: alternatives?
30 years? In Georgia, they help them build a new stadium after 20 years.

There wasn't room for 100 inch televisions in the luxury boxes in the Georgia Dome so it had to be blown up. Or something like that.

26 posted on 01/14/2018 6:57:29 PM PST by KarlInOhio (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks jazusamo.
An unusual provision in the Raiders agreement with the state allows the team, currently playing its final seasons in Oakland, to break the lease and look for another home if Nevada attempts to impose new taxes over the next three decades on the team, stadium, fans or players. That includes visiting teams and fans as well. The provision applies to any “targeted tax” aimed at collecting revenue specifically from players or fans. It would not protect the team or its fans from any new taxes applied generally on businesses or individuals across Nevada, however. Nevada could impose a tax on all sports tickets but couldn’t impose one specifically on stadiums larger than 40,000 seats, because it would only levied against Raiders’ stadium. A separate agreement from the master lease, the targeted tax provision, is part of a series of papers that still needs approval by NFL owners and the Las Vegas Stadium Authority before any deal is approved.

27 posted on 01/14/2018 7:02:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: All

Bread and CIRCUSES.

Ancient Rome had nothing on these modern day Caesars and multi-millionaire gladiators.

There the peasants got their bread and circuses ‘free’.

Here, the peasants are robbed twice for it. The first time at the point of the Caesar’s tax collector’s guns, and again at the gate.

(At least the second time is voluntary, and the idiot sportsfans onlyy their addiction to blame.


28 posted on 01/14/2018 7:02:31 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: KarlInOhio
Georgia Dome Implosion

Georgia Dome Implosion

29 posted on 01/14/2018 7:06:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Baynative

Prostitution isn’t legal in Vegas.


30 posted on 01/14/2018 7:09:48 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (God Bless Attorney General Jeff Sessions! Thank You!)
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IOW, readers of the article can see, Lost Wages really wants (and needs) an NFL franchise (just wait until they kneel) and will say and do anything to close the deal -- but like all gubmint weasels, will turn around and bite unless muzzled. While I remain pissed at the NFL bull**** of the past year or so, and always categorically reject the idea of taxpayers' construction of stadiums, I give kudos to the Raiders for covering themselves.
Top 10 Las Vegas Casino Implosions

Top 10 Las Vegas Casino Implosions

31 posted on 01/14/2018 7:11:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Vision Thing
Taxes are fungible. If you see $750 million in increased hotel/tourist tax revenue as a result of the project then maybe, but usually when tax increments are talked about as justification for a project they actually fall short. And it is never acknowledged as such on paper but the slack must be taken up by other taxes.

And major sports stadiums often don't pay for themselves during their useful life. Case in point the Seattle Kingdome, which still had about 25% of its mortgage balance unpaid when it was razed.

Not saying there aren't economic benefits to civic projects like this that are hard to measure and hard to sell to a populace that probably won't think the whole thing through, but that doesn't relieve the government of the responsibility to honestly account for how they are being paid for, especially since the benefits will lag behind the costs several years.

32 posted on 01/14/2018 7:27:57 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: jazusamo

Suckers...


33 posted on 01/14/2018 7:33:28 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MtnClimber
When the Broncos took a knee they were dead to me. Have not watched a game since.

Two years now. But the Orange Crush was a good time.

34 posted on 01/14/2018 7:36:12 PM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Clinging Bitterly
One thing that brings liberals and conservatives together is that new stadiums paid for by taxpayers is repulsive.

I know that LV is a big city, but is it enough to support the Raiders?

They have no connection to the town, except for gamblers.

Can a team be supported fan-wise, with out of towners?

My guess is no.

They'd be fair weather fans at best.

And I'm seriously concerned about the Mob putting pressure on players, as they are in close proximity.

"Da Boss would likes it if you would drop dis pass right now. Or dere could be a problem for youse and your family."

35 posted on 01/14/2018 7:37:42 PM PST by boop ("So much wasted time"-David Cassidy)
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To: boop

Half of the games will be played at home, which means visiting teams’ fans have the option of booking their Vegas stays to be able to watch them play.


36 posted on 01/14/2018 7:45:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: jazusamo
Utterly ridiculous - the taxpayers in Nevada are getting screwed big time on this by the Raiders, the NFL and complicit Nevada politicians.

Combine the bad stadium deal with a significant decline in interest in the NFL along with the fact that the average Vegas local is not going to be able to afford to see a game in this new stadium, and this is shaping up to be a real disaster for both Vegas and the Raiders.
37 posted on 01/14/2018 7:59:14 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: jazusamo

What a Suckers Bet that deal was.The people of the State pay the bill for thirty years while the team keeps the proceeds.

Screw football and the teams that depend on the taxpayers to subsidize them.


38 posted on 01/14/2018 8:21:07 PM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: jazusamo

Picking winners and losers. Taxpayers ... losers.


39 posted on 01/14/2018 9:29:04 PM PST by TheNext
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To: Vision Thing

That’s the thing everyone misses, most of the tax money collected here in Las Vegas are paid by people from other states and countries who come here to party. My state and local taxes are a pittance. No income taxes, very low property tax...and pretty high sales taxes (except none on food, most sales taxes collected are also from visitors). As a local, I’m paying very little overall in taxes...and hardly anything at all for this stadium deal.


40 posted on 01/14/2018 9:36:15 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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