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Napoleon was the Best General Ever, and the Math Proves it.
Towards Data Science ^ | December 4. 2017 | Ethan Arsht

Posted on 01/05/2018 9:50:10 AM PST by C19fan

Like Hannibal, I wanted to rank powerful leaders in the history of warfare. Unlike Hannibal, I sought to use data to determine a general’s abilities, rather than specific accounts of generals’ achievements. The result is a system for ranking every prominent commander in military history.

(Excerpt) Read more at towardsdatascience.com ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: france; gigo; godsgravesglyphs; napoleon; napoleonicwars; war
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The statistic placed Lee as below average.
1 posted on 01/05/2018 9:50:10 AM PST by C19fan
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Napoleon was ultimately defeated therefore he was NOT the best general ever.

My vote would go to General George Patton.


2 posted on 01/05/2018 9:51:25 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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Seems to me many generals throughout history had long careers without more consistent records of success.


3 posted on 01/05/2018 9:51:59 AM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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"Best General Ever? Huh! My frozen butt, he is."

4 posted on 01/05/2018 9:53:38 AM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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Patton never retreated. Ever.

That makes him number 1. You may not have liked working for him, especially training for him, but you loved not dying, and you loved killing tons of Germans.

The first to coordinate close air support with armor.


5 posted on 01/05/2018 9:54:01 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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I wonder if the troops he left to die on the tundra-like plains of Russia in 1812, while he slinked away to Paris with his tail between his legs, would agree with that assessment.


6 posted on 01/05/2018 9:55:15 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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https://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/posters

Probably the best statistical graphic ever drawn, this map by Charles Joseph Minard portrays the losses suffered by Napoleon's army in the Russian campaign of 1812. Beginning at the Polish-Russian border, the thick band shows the size of the army at each position. The path of Napoleon's retreat from Moscow in the bitterly cold winter is depicted by the dark lower band, which is tied to temperature and time scales. Exquisitely printed in two colors on fine archival paper, 22” by 15”.

If I was a general, and I lost this many men in a single campaign, I would go down as a monster, or a criminal.

Napoleon had some great victories, but he also had some epic defeats.

7 posted on 01/05/2018 9:56:00 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Heinz Wilhelm Guderian was the best of the bests.


8 posted on 01/05/2018 9:56:04 AM PST by granada
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What about Alexander.


9 posted on 01/05/2018 9:56:18 AM PST by TexasM1A
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After watching Gettysburg and doing some research, I lost all respect for Lee.


10 posted on 01/05/2018 9:56:22 AM PST by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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George Washington won a war that nearly everyone thought was impossible.

He defeated the greatest power in the world and saw off internal treachery using only his own courage and stragetic nous


11 posted on 01/05/2018 9:56:42 AM PST by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President !)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; pax_et_bonum; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks C19fan. This should get some blood circulating.

12 posted on 01/05/2018 9:58:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: RinaseaofDs

One of the first books I read in my husband’s library was “A Genius for War” and I highly recommend it for anyone interested in General Patton!


13 posted on 01/05/2018 9:59:02 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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from the authors description of his methodology: I separated the combatants’ forces into infantry, cavalry, artillery, air force, and navy.

I wonder how Napoleon's air force fared in the analysis...

14 posted on 01/05/2018 9:59:52 AM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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Interesting exercise. One would have to wade through the details to see if this approach makes sense. My first take is that it reminds me of the bean counters in the corporate world trying to measure everything and employees gaming the system by upping their stats with meaningless “wins”. But that’s just my skeptical side.

Not all battles are equal and hopefully this approach takes all that into account.


15 posted on 01/05/2018 10:00:58 AM PST by plain talk
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Since when does a general lead 650,000 into Russia and come home with 65,000 and get labeled anything other than a piss poor total failure as a leader?

Idiot author writes about an idiot general.


16 posted on 01/05/2018 10:02:02 AM PST by detch (")
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A bit off topic, but in many ways Napoleon reminds me of Hitler. Both brought great suffering and death to Europe. So yeah, I never quite understood the romantic fascination some folks have with Napoleon.


17 posted on 01/05/2018 10:02:12 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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My vote would go to General George Patton.

I'll go with George Washington.

18 posted on 01/05/2018 10:02:37 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say)
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What I read so far was interesting.

Just getting the French to march forward may have made Napoleon one of the greats. I didn't see whether the author accounted for the number if battles fought.

19 posted on 01/05/2018 10:02:37 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The Whig Party died when it fled the great fight of its century. Ditto for the Republicans now.)
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Patton.


20 posted on 01/05/2018 10:03:40 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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