Posted on 12/21/2017 9:13:49 AM PST by C19fan
Mormons are posthumously baptizing Holocaust victims as well as grandparents of public figures like Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton and Steven Spielberg, despite church rules intended to restrict the ceremonies to a member's ancestors, according to a researcher who has spent two decades monitoring the church's massive genealogical database.
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Neither are a lot of other Mormon practices and beliefs.
This I don't understand. Why get ticked off? Ignore it. I don't care if they baptize me, for example, or my ancestors. That affects in no way my own understanding of God, nor my relationship with Him.
Meaningless.
It is nice they want universal salvation but it is a useless motion.
traditions of men ...
Proabably so they can inflate the number of members. After all it is mostly a cult.
“This I don’t understand. Why get ticked off?”
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You have to keep in mind what we’re talking about here are victims of the Holocaust. If you had devout Jewish grandparents who met their end in a gas chamber in it, your perspective would likely be a bit different.
Incredibly bad PR, in addition to just being a dumb thing to do.
Bad PR, I agree. Insensitive? Yes.
Evil? I don’t think so. So, the only person you hurt by being sensitive is yourself. I learned the hard way that what others thought was of extreme insignificance to me. And I am much the happier for it.
But, I do understand why Jewish people might not like it. All I can say is that God knows what’s in the heart of Mormons and Jews alike, along with everybody else. I don’t, and I just think “why ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity?”
All I can say is that God knows what’s in the heart of Mormons and Jews alike, along with everybody else. I don’t, and I just think “why ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity?”
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I don’t believe I ascribed it to any malice or evil intent, just to moronic theology and near-nearsightedness when it comes to how the practice can be perceived. Mormons, by and large, are good people.
“It appears that the Mormon practice of baptism for the dead contradicts the Book of Mormon!
In Alma 34.35-36 we read: “For behold, if ye have procrastinated the day of your repentance even until death, behold ye have become subjected to the spirit of the devil, and he does seal you his. Therefore, the spirit of the Lord has withdrawn from you and hath no place in you; the power of the devil is over you, and this is the final state of the wicked.”
interesting point: certainly raises the issue of the efficacy of proxy baptisms.
Start research here: “baptize+dead”
Well fair enough.
I agree that the theology is moronic, but I simply cannot get offended by any one trying to evangelize. Even a false gospel. As long as it is non-violent and non-disruptive.
“I simply cannot get offended by any one trying to evangelize.”
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This is slacker “evangelism” - although it could hardly even be called any kind of evangelism. That would fall under when they go door to door, like Jehovah Witnesses, and talk to people (people who are alive, that is) in order to convert them.
sweet site, thanks!
You don’t seriously believe that the Mormons don’t go door to door with the best of them, do you?
Mind, I am not defending Mormon beliefs. I just think that long as they are not violent or disroptive, they can offend away all day.
“You don’t seriously believe that the Mormons don’t go door to door with the best of them, do you?”
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Actually, I noted that they do:
“That would fall under when they go door to door, like Jehovah Witnesses” - the “they” was referencing the Mormon’s practice of doing just that.
My bad with syntax or something there.
The door to door work is probably one of the biggest - if not the THE biggest reason - why Mormons and JWs keep growing at the rate they do. Very effective, if annoying to people who don’t want to be pestered at dinnertime.
Dunking people in water does nothing to increase your numbers, it just POs a lotta people, esp Jews in this case.
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