Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

A Hard Day's Night: Solving a Beatles mystery with mathematics
ABC Science ^ | Joel Werner

Posted on 11/07/2017 8:57:49 PM PST by sparklite2

The final piece slid into place: buried deep in the mix of that shimmering opening chord, someone — maybe Ringo, but probably George Martin — had played an F on a piano.

Dr Brown remembers that moment very clearly. The feeling that he'd just solved a Beatles mystery — one that had been buzzing around his subconscious brain for decades.

"It was extraordinarily exciting. The chord was a mystery for such a long time, and people still talk about it," he said.

"I think that maybe one of the legacies of the Beatles' music is the brilliance of what they put into their songs, on so many levels, so that people 40-50 years later will still be analysing them, still trying to figure out what made them so great."

(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: beatles

1 posted on 11/07/2017 8:57:49 PM PST by sparklite2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: sparklite2

The Fadd9 on the electric 12-string guitar was crucial to the power of the chord, giving it a richness which would otherwise have been absent. ... George Martin played a Steinway grand piano on A Hard Day’s Night, and contributed to the opening chord.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwfH9oAiPH0


2 posted on 11/07/2017 9:02:05 PM PST by TigerClaws
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sparklite2

The Tristan Chord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcE3kSX_y_c


3 posted on 11/07/2017 9:07:15 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sparklite2

mathematics trick

Ask your mark to think of any number

multiply it by two silently

Add 10 to the total number

have them divide the new number by 2

finally subtract the original number from the new number

tell them the number they are left with is 5


4 posted on 11/07/2017 9:10:51 PM PST by Bob434
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sparklite2

Mystery solved:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwfH9oAiPH0


5 posted on 11/07/2017 9:11:48 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Forgotten Amendments
This is cited in the article but the gent being described found it not quite right and determined using spectral analysis that there was some piano being played too.

I noted that in the youtube video you linked, a comment from 2 years ago says "I don't believe this is quite complete...I think George Martin was playing something on the piano as well!" Guy nails it, no spectrum analyzer needed.

6 posted on 11/07/2017 9:27:52 PM PST by pepsi_junkie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: sparklite2

Back in junior high (’66-’67 or thereabouts) I spent hours and hours trying to get that chord right. Never did quite get it, of course...


7 posted on 11/07/2017 9:38:17 PM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dayglored

I was a guitarist in a band at the time. We opened with a chord that approximated it, but was no exact match.


8 posted on 11/07/2017 9:41:56 PM PST by sparklite2 (-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Bob434

You mean to tell me that half of 2x + 10 is x + 5?? Shocking!!


9 posted on 11/07/2017 10:35:50 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: sparklite2

That chord is a freaking monster. I’ve always loved it.


10 posted on 11/07/2017 10:53:52 PM PST by Bullish (Whatever it takes to MAGA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sparklite2

Bump!


11 posted on 11/07/2017 11:07:10 PM PST by murron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sparklite2

Bump!


12 posted on 11/07/2017 11:07:11 PM PST by murron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sparklite2

Next, he’ll spend a few more decades discovering what John meant by “Eight Days A Week”...


13 posted on 11/08/2017 1:28:47 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Let Trump Be Trump. Would you rather have Hillary?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sparklite2

Spent a lot of time recording stuff. Here is what happened: They decided to have a hard chord open the song. Truth is what sounds big and rich and loud to the ear in the studio is often extremely underwhelming coming out of the monitors. So they started stacking stuff, not really thinking about it but rather listening...until what came out of the monitors on playback sounded reasonably “phat”, as it would be phrased some years later. Even making demos you sometimes have to build things up because a recording smallifies the live playing/singing. Since your listening rather than thinking you can TOTALLY forget what went into a particular sound.


14 posted on 11/08/2017 5:15:17 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OrangeHoof
"Next, he’ll spend a few more decades discovering what John meant by “Eight Days A Week”...

My current wife can explain that to you ...

She had her first child because she was taking birth control pills on the premise that there were eight days in a week ...

15 posted on 11/08/2017 5:20:54 AM PST by BlueLancer (ANTIFA - The new and improved SturmAbteilung)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: sparklite2

Now I’ve heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don’t really care for music, do you?
It goes like this, the fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing “Hallelujah”

Genius


16 posted on 11/08/2017 5:53:07 AM PST by slimjim12
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sparklite2

I once saw a video in which Randy Bachman showed how he slowly figured it out.

He ended by playing the final product and I think he nailed it.


17 posted on 11/08/2017 6:18:35 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson