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Quote of the Day: How Many Guns Are Too Many?
The Truth About Guns ^ | 10/31/17 | Dan Zimmerman

Posted on 10/31/2017 6:54:38 AM PDT by Simon Green

“It’s estimated that there are more than 310 million firearms in the United States. That’s a firearm for nearly every man, woman and child. But only a minority of Americans owns the bulk of these guns. Pew Research Center polling shows that around 37 percent of Americans report that an adult in their household owns a gun. Perhaps we’ve passed the point where we can usefully ask why some Americans are armed to the teeth and others aren’t. We champion our Second Amendment. It should remain inviolable. To neuter it would incite war. At what point, however, does the unabated and loosely regulated domestic arms race render us all potential victims?” – Phillip Morris in A handful of Americans own most of the nations’ guns: Phillip Morris [via cleveland.com]


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To: Spok

“What evidence is there that the number of guns one owns has a correlation with criminality? None, but it’s the idea that bugs the left, rational or not.”


To answer your question (from anecdotal evidence), when I owned 1 gun I was no less likely to commit a crime than now, when I own, uh, more than 1. Ditto for every single firearms owner that I’ve ever come across, in multiple states.

As to why that bugs the Left...it is because you can always give a spare gun, ammo and mags to a friend or relative, and multiply your effectiveness against their attempt to impose dictatorial control over your life. Less guns = less opposition to them...which makes me want to buy more guns, ammo and accessories every time I think about them and their proclivities.


41 posted on 10/31/2017 8:00:06 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Simon Green

re: “How many guns are too many?”

First, as with all things consumable,, it is THE AFTER MARKET, that for the logically thinking gun owner, is the answer.

The manufactured firearm can become, though possibly in a safe, “a dust collector”, IF any and all things ‘aftermarket’, become too costly or scarce. The “geek in all of us” can opt for the latest optical widget, the latest ‘set of grips’ or “stock’, “compensators”, “magazines made from unobtanium”, and so on. The “ammo buff” will find, at no expense spared, that “neutonian mass supremo veloce”.

And then ... comes the maintenance expenses. Gun greases and oils ‘made to withstand Siberian summers’, but not stain clothing. Gun cleaning kits, both those designed by Earth’s military forces, and those endorsed by gun manufacturers, and the little throw-aways that come part and parcel with them. Table mats to withstand corrosive acids, but not harm the environment. Workstands that will not mar that precious smokepole, not to mention the dining room table your grandparents gave you. Ammunition boxes, firearm cases, and in some quasi-Communist States, mandated combination-controlled lockboxes, to keep you from acquiring your firearm in a hurry in the dead of night and darkness.

Purchasing any firearm opens the Pandora’s Box, to all sorts of after-market expenses. Yet we gun owners do so with that “Oooo, pretty!” sparkle in our eyes, and that thought of ‘Wait’ll the folks at the range see THIS!”

The answer? YOUR BUDGET!


42 posted on 10/31/2017 8:05:37 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Puppage

Is this a trick MATH question? N + 1 = ? (Close to the right answer!)

Puppage, please know that I still miss Sen. Graham. To think of him and Cornyn in the same sentence pains me. One was a TEXAN (even if he spent some wasted years as a Ga. Bulldog).


43 posted on 10/31/2017 8:06:37 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Simon Green

If we removed every gun in the US, we would still have crime.
If we removed every criminal in the US, we’d have little or no crime.

Which above method is most efficient?


44 posted on 10/31/2017 8:06:45 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Spok

“At what point, however, does the unabated and loosely regulated domestic arms race render us all potential victims?”

More guns equals LESS CRIME. It’s too few guns that renders us all potential victims, Einstein.


45 posted on 10/31/2017 8:08:04 AM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Ancesthntr

It is possible to have too many guns, one needs a
good balance of frags and crew served weapons.
Also air strikes come in handy at times.


46 posted on 10/31/2017 8:10:13 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Simon Green

When asked if Americans have too many guns I have often replied. Why don’t you ask your wife or daughters if they have too many shoes or clothes in their closets?

In other words it is really none of their business to ask such questions.


47 posted on 10/31/2017 8:28:02 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Vaquero

I’m sure if you give about a half hour I could name most or all guns I currently own.
= = =

Have you lost any?

Can you name all the Lakes?


48 posted on 10/31/2017 8:38:47 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: The Working Man

I’ve been told, “Sewing machines are not like husbands; you can have more than one.”

Good logic.


49 posted on 10/31/2017 8:40:01 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: ctdonath2

If you’re looking at a large population (tens of millions) who cause absolutely no harm, and you hypothesize what kind of problem they could be, they’re not the ones to be worried about - you are.

Thank you. It never ceases to amaze me that gun grabbers cannot see that little fact.

The history of the world is full of examples of the armed guy taking advantage of the unarmed guy and being very wary of the less armed guy.
The 2nd amendment was written so that we the people would be the more armed guy and the government the less armed, so they would be afraid of us and act in our interests,
It was not written for hunting, or shooting a burglar that comes into your home (although those are fun and worthwhile things to do with a firearm)


50 posted on 10/31/2017 8:40:07 AM PDT by penguinhunter
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To: Simon Green
How many tools do I REALLY NEED?!
51 posted on 10/31/2017 8:41:59 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: ctdonath2
You can only carry about 3 at a time.

WRONG!!!!!!

You need more vodka!!

"You imperialist pig-dog! You can carry as many guns as you need to kill the invaders!"

52 posted on 10/31/2017 8:45:48 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: Ancesthntr

What exactly is “Armed to the teeth”?

I picture a pirate, carrying about 1/2 dozen pistols, and topped off with his dagger held in his teeth.

What would be today’s equivalent?


53 posted on 10/31/2017 8:46:13 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: tet68

You forgot area denial munitions (like claymores and foo gas (fougasse))


54 posted on 10/31/2017 8:48:27 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: Simon Green
Perhaps we’ve passed the point where we can usefully ask why some Americans are armed to the teeth and others aren’t.

Well Simon, some people enjoy being lambs to the slaughter, others actually believe that the police's job is to protect them (nothing could be further from the truth), we call those people fools, others are pacifists that refuse to protect themselves and their families, we call them stoopid fools.

Then there are those who have guns for protection and those who have multiple guns because we recognize that a gun is a tool and no one tool fits every need, also a whole lot of us just enjoy the hell out of the shooting sport and different guns give us different kinds of enjoyments.

Tell me Mr. green what your response would be if I were to say we need to look at the First Amendment because we have too many fools and dangerous journalists attempting to impose their fickle views and limitations on the enumerated rights of others?

55 posted on 10/31/2017 8:53:02 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1
The article I posted is from a pro-gun rights blog, quoting an anti gun activist. One must know the enemy.

Did you not notice my comment at the bottom?

56 posted on 10/31/2017 9:00:48 AM PDT by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green
"Pew Research Center polling shows that around 37 percent of Americans report that an adult in their household owns a gun."

All this tells us, is that 37% of poll respondents answered the question truthfully. It does not tell us the actual percentage of Americans who own guns.

57 posted on 10/31/2017 9:51:19 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: CodeToad
In the hands of a black in Chicago, one is too many since they seem to murder each other at an extremely alarming rate in Chicago.

So, every black person residing in Chicago is a murderous thug?

58 posted on 10/31/2017 9:56:29 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Simon Green
How many is too many?...Simple...

Compute the of square feet in your house or apartment, the make sure you have at least one gun-per-square-foot. At that point you have too many guns.

59 posted on 10/31/2017 10:17:43 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Windflier

“So, every black person residing in Chicago is a murderous thug? “

Sure. Why not say that since every white person is a racist, right?


60 posted on 10/31/2017 10:22:39 AM PDT by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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