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1 posted on 10/25/2017 7:01:41 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
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For me it began with Dan Rather, and his persistance in trying to win an election, debunking George W.


2 posted on 10/25/2017 7:02:51 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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The 2000 election with the hanging chad was the turning point in journalism imho.


3 posted on 10/25/2017 7:04:00 PM PDT by WeWaWes (When I look in the mirror I see an elephant--a bad ass elephant)
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Who’s Jeff Glor? Should I know? Should I care?


4 posted on 10/25/2017 7:04:13 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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Maybe it was always unreliable and it’s just now that we have the means to point it out.


5 posted on 10/25/2017 7:04:21 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democratt)
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Walter Cronkite.

Vietnam.


6 posted on 10/25/2017 7:04:52 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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They’ve been hard Left for a very long time.

But in terms of just making stuff up, I think the George W Bush era (2006?) when the media agreed that the US economy was “the worst since Hoover” is the first time I just sat up and said, “That’s just a complete lie with no basis in fact”. And the media totally ran with it. Didn’t care.


7 posted on 10/25/2017 7:05:13 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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It started in ‘48, we didn’t catch on until Rather, thanks to Buckhead.


8 posted on 10/25/2017 7:05:45 PM PDT by Eddie01
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Dates back at least as far as Cronkite.


10 posted on 10/25/2017 7:06:15 PM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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1932 when the NYT won the Pulitzer prize for Walter Duranty’s phony reports whitewashing Stalin’s Ukranian genocidem


11 posted on 10/25/2017 7:07:24 PM PDT by Maceman
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1968


12 posted on 10/25/2017 7:07:43 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Mid 1980s, when the two-paper markets ceased to be, the old owners kicked their buckets, and the 60s college commies crashed the party and started running the show. At least they used to have a pretense of truth. No more. It’s spittle for the leftist lickspittles now.


13 posted on 10/25/2017 7:08:19 PM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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The networks make their money from advertising- pretty much ALL their money.
That advertising is mostly from international companies who are not interested in American views but world views.
The media’s news reflects that.

I’d say the turning point was halfway through Bush’s second term when the Dems used funding the Iraq war to get everything they wanted.
And the media covered up their blackmail.


15 posted on 10/25/2017 7:09:58 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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A guess would be around 1890. There was some good journalism but also some yellow.

It got worse in the 1920s and then seemed to do a little better until the 60s.

Since then it has been about 80% crooked on subjects which are political or religious. By crooked, I mean they lie. Sometimes just outright lies and sometimes by misleading but technically true. A good example of the latter was an Andrea Mitchell story on assault rifles.

She may have outright lied too.


20 posted on 10/25/2017 7:13:17 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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Journalism is not just unreliable, it is almost always false from the notable leftist networks and newspapers. I think they believe an informed public is dangerous for socialism/communism and they are right. They are making sure that their viewers are completely backward in what they believe because it advances leftism.


21 posted on 10/25/2017 7:13:35 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Depends upon how long you’ve been paying attention. About 40 years for me.


22 posted on 10/25/2017 7:13:43 PM PDT by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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When individual journalists started becoming ‘personalities’ and celebrities, journalism started becoming more about form and less about substance. If you haven't seen the Youtube video of Lawrence O’Donell acting imperious, swearing, and melting down during breaks in a newscast, you should. The egos of the media celebrities is astounding, and incredibly unprofessional. The concept of media celebrity is at odds with journalistic integrity.
23 posted on 10/25/2017 7:14:50 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To hear my late father tell it, the media became unreliable during the Watergate scandal. And my dad was a life-long Democrat (although he voted for Nixon and Reagan).


24 posted on 10/25/2017 7:15:00 PM PDT by LIConFem
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It started in 1970. It got progressively worse through Nixon and Careter.

Then CNN was launched. The rise of 24 hour news and the decline of the printed press accelerated it.

The internet diluted “real journalism” to the point where newsrooms started falling apart. The news had to become entertainment because most Americans can no longer read or pay attention to anything longer than three minutes.


25 posted on 10/25/2017 7:16:37 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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1968 - Tet


26 posted on 10/25/2017 7:16:48 PM PDT by stylin19a (Best.Election.Ever)
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In the 1980s I read an American newspaper report on an incident that I happened to have been at.

They lied through their teeth. I don't mean they slightly shaded the facts I mean they made up things that did not happen and did not report things that did.

I never believed another thing I read as something close to fact until I confirmed it from two or three different sources.

As my mother would say, "paper will lie still and let you put anything on it."

28 posted on 10/25/2017 7:17:04 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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