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How Clemson and Washington State's Upset Losses Impact the Playoff Race
SI ^ | October 14, 2017 | Eric Single

Posted on 10/14/2017 5:06:30 AM PDT by C19fan

Now in the first two weekends of October, the No. 2, 3, 7 and 8 teams have fallen to middle-of-the-pack conference opponents: Last week Oklahoma fell to Iowa State before Michigan lost to Michigan State; on Friday night Clemson suffered a 27–24 loss to Syracuse that sent shockwaves through the college football world, and before anyone could fully process the impact of that result, Washington State laid an egg on the road at Cal, dropping from the ranks of the unbeaten with a 37–3 loss.

Let’s take a look at the ripple effect of Friday night’s upsets from three different levels: the losing teams, the conferences they had sat atop and the national title picture at large.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: football; ncaa
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It was Friday the 13th!
1 posted on 10/14/2017 5:06:30 AM PDT by C19fan
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College football needs to take the final step to a legitimate championship tournament. Being college football, of course, they will mess it up, but a good tournament would have eight teams. Automatic bids would go to the champions of five or six top conferences. No second place teams. Conferences that have split into a divisional structure would have to realign, probably by returning to something close to their ancestral forms. That would leave two or three bids for the best of the rest, including the independents and minor conferences. But again, no runners-up allowed. You win your conference or you're out.

Four teams is too few. The poll rankings would necessarily still play a big role, and differences in quality of schedule would loom too large. Sixteen teams is too many; we would have second and even third place teams from tough conferences and two or three losses playing for the championship. Eight is the right number. There will always be room for a quibble, but all the power conference championships would qualify, and two or three at-large spots would be enough to accommodate the occasional truly outstanding small conference teams.

While we're at it, all conferences should be required to play a complete round robin schedule. No exceptions. And shorten the regular season. Back to the future. College football was much healthier in its earlier iteration, before the evolution of the megaconferences, which are nothing more than television marketing consortiums. Return the conferences to natural, geographically based rivalries of mostly similar institutions. And tell tv to take a hike. Games could be televised, but no tv timeouts to interrupt play. If fans want to watch a commercialfest, watch the NFL.

And restore academic standards, even if it shuts down half the NCAA.

2 posted on 10/14/2017 5:28:47 AM PDT by sphinx
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I watched both games. Clemson wasn’t ready for the level of competition Syracuse gave them. They struggled to keep up with Syracuse in the second half and it didn’t work out.

I don’t know what happened to Washington State - maybe they ate the ‘rat poison’ that Saban was talking about at his press conference last week. The second half was painful to watch as they committed turnover after turnover. They don’t issue injury reports during games so toward the end when the cameras were showing a glove on their QB’s non-throwing hand, I began to wonder whether he was playing with an injury.


3 posted on 10/14/2017 5:38:32 AM PDT by mjustice (Apparently common sense isn't so common.)
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To: sphinx
Your proposal makes a LOT of sense   +1

In other news, I stayed up too late, but seeing SU's upset made it worthwhile   :-)
Must have been near 10K fans/students on the field afterward !

4 posted on 10/14/2017 5:42:34 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: C19fan

What needs most to change is the academic requirements for athletes into higher education. They should meet the entry standards required of all students along with getting rid of the institutional racism that allows unqualified minorities entry. About 20 years ago, my daughter in 7th grade scored a 21 on the ACT exam (she later scored a 31 during her junior year in the HS of her small rural community). The same year she was in junior high, the average ACT score for black athletes at the land grant university was 17. This was the average, meaning that some gained entry with lesser scores. The average freshman class score that year exceeded 25 on the ACT. This is called black privilege at its worst.


5 posted on 10/14/2017 6:06:47 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: C19fan
There is no playoff. It is a media fantasy of 4 team beauty pageant.
6 posted on 10/14/2017 6:14:45 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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Just give the trophy to Bama...and get it out of the way.

Then, everybody can relax and just enjoy the games, without all the angst over whether or not Bama will beat the hell out of them.

'Cause you know they will.

Roll, Tide.

7 posted on 10/14/2017 6:15:57 AM PDT by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: sphinx
And restore academic standards, even if it shuts down half the NCAA

Half? Ha!

Do that, and you can have a two-team playoff.

8 posted on 10/14/2017 6:17:51 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like)
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To: mjustice; windcliff
Clemson wasn’t ready for the level of competition Syracuse gave them.

"Ya' shouldn't...ought'ta...ha' done it...baby."

9 posted on 10/14/2017 6:29:16 AM PDT by onedoug ( KEK)
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To: C19fan

Just damn. I thought WaSU was going to win the Pac-12. Beat USC then lose badly to Cal?! This year certainly seems topsy turvy.


10 posted on 10/14/2017 7:01:44 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: sphinx

The NCAA already has a Div 1 Championship. Too bad none of these schools will be recognized by the NCAA as Champion.


11 posted on 10/14/2017 7:05:43 AM PDT by opbuzz (Right way, wrong way, Marine way)
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To: OldSmaj

Um.... that didn’t happen last year.


12 posted on 10/14/2017 7:52:05 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: mjustice

The Clemson game was a good watch. They got out hustled.


13 posted on 10/14/2017 8:01:37 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Prayers for Gods People! Salvation & Restoration!)
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To: C19fan

SU hasn’t had a good football team in ages...but I’m glad they upset Clemson. Now, I’d want to see what undefeated schools are left. I know USF (University of South Florida) is undefeated, but I think playing the rescheduled game at UConn in November will knock them out of being undefeated.


14 posted on 10/14/2017 8:34:44 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is :-))
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To: foundedonpurpose

Clemson got out coached, out played, and out hustled. I was at the game and Syracuse deserved the win all the way. The hurry up offense killed Clemson. The defense was literally standing up looking at the sideline for the set up when Syracuse snapped the ball throughout the whole game. How many third and longs did they convert on? Simply amazing. They made a journeyman quarterback look like Cam Newton. The secondary was awful and the whole team looked like they forgot how to tackle. Sure the first string QB went down in the first half but he really wasn’t lighting it up anyway. It also didn’t help that the Syracuse student who kicked the half time promotion field goal to win $1000 was far better than the the Clemson kicker, who missed two chip shots. They should have signed him at halftime on the spot and got him to switch schools. Angry Tiger dad venting here.


15 posted on 10/14/2017 8:37:00 AM PDT by freefdny
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To: C19fan

Washington State players started listening to their “fat, little girlfriends.”


16 posted on 10/14/2017 8:37:56 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Rummyfan

Dang, Couged it again!

Bow Down!


17 posted on 10/14/2017 9:01:19 AM PDT by ThreeYearLurker
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To: C19fan

Well ROLL TIDE


18 posted on 10/14/2017 9:30:33 AM PDT by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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To: freefdny

Your good. I’d be a touch miffed if I was a Tiger fan.


19 posted on 10/14/2017 9:49:55 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Prayers for Gods People! Salvation & Restoration!)
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To: tomkat

That’s the kind of win that will get Syracuse’s program turned around.


20 posted on 10/14/2017 9:55:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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