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Before the Charlottesville incident, some here wanted not to be associated with "White Nationalists". Others at other times, did not want to be associated with Milo or other conservatives -- we can tell ourselves that we are different than those above. And it's true.

However, the Left is not destroying the above for being nationalist or being a homosexual. The truth is the Charlosttesville group were protesting the removal of General Lee -- it is a reasonable protest. Milo attacks feminists and Muslims, and he aggressively is pro-free speech. The Left attacks them and these issues are our issues. This is a time to unite in a war against the Left. It is not a time to take comfort that we are not white nationalists and that we are not gay and be okay while those on the front lines at this time are being bearing the full brunt of the Left's attack. Let's not kid ourselves, if we are against illegal immigration, if we denounce Islamic Terror, if we ask for more responsibility from all groups in our society, then we are next. We can win if we fight together. The enemy is very great. However, God is unquestionably on our side. We will win if we fight together. And the time to fight is now.

1 posted on 08/16/2017 4:56:10 PM PDT by SarahPalin2012
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To: SarahPalin2012

What ???


2 posted on 08/16/2017 4:59:55 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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These jackyls on the left don’t have the majority of people on their side like they think. However, I have to say they do have both political parties on their side and apparently the police.

Ironic, huh?
The only people who stand up and support police are being fed to the wolves by the same police departments yet they protect their killers...ANTIFA and BLM.


3 posted on 08/16/2017 5:02:36 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: SarahPalin2012

Yes, the enemy is very strong. She’s talking about Satan.


5 posted on 08/16/2017 5:14:41 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.)
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To: SarahPalin2012

I wonder about this. You know how leftists bring everyone under their umbrella, so they have Muslims and feminists on the same side? They seem to attribute, or project, that same habit onto conservatives, leading to acceptance of the idea that all conservatives must support racism, since all leftists support feminism.


6 posted on 08/16/2017 5:17:09 PM PDT by Chicory
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No. The most important propaganda ploy right now, in fact the key propaganda ploy, is the effort to tie conservatism, classic liberal constitutionalism, and its Judeo-Christian moral foundation, to the KKK. Doing this relieves them of needing to actually debate principle, and it makes the very foundation of the country philosophically off limits to anyone who falls for their sleight of hand.

And it absolves the DNC for its own historical guilt.

Classic racism equates skin color with culture, and culture with character. “Neo-racism” of the kind the left promotes, does the same thing albeit in reverse. The very principles that set men free are labeled racist, and the fascists on the left get away with it. The principles that make it possible to live good, productive, morally decent lives are labeled “white privilege” when in fact they are available to anyone who will accept and live by them. Its a propaganda sleight of hand, and there is no shortage of people who fall for it, and quite a few people on the supposed “right” who take the bait.

We are going to be set up again and again, until we learn to not take the bait, and to stand together. When confronted about Confederate paraphernalia, just remind them that these are Democrat monuments. We play for the other team.

Notice another aspect of the “sleight of hand”. Milo would be “alt-right” because he is conservative on some issues, but obviously not on social issues. But by labeling KKK as some kind of “alt-right”, Milo gets lumped in with them for propaganda purposes. We have to avoid playing their game.


7 posted on 08/16/2017 5:24:40 PM PDT by marron
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constitutional conservatives don’t engage in identity politics. we don’t chant Nazi slogans, and we don’t carry the Confederate Flag.

The KKK should climb under a rock.


9 posted on 08/16/2017 5:28:21 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (i WANNA HEAR MORE GLOATING!)
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You are correct it will take a united effort to beat out enemies.


10 posted on 08/16/2017 5:31:00 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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So in order to fight the lefties I have to join the nazis?

No thanks. I’d rather start smoking pot.


14 posted on 08/16/2017 5:39:19 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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The truth is the Charlosttesville group were protesting the removal of General Lee -- it is a reasonable protest.

That was the occasion of the rally.

It wasn't necessarily the reason why individuals and groups came.

It wasn't necessarily the purpose everyone there had.

For example, the occasion for Woodstock was a rock concert.

But it wasn't everybody's reason or purpose for going there.

17 posted on 08/16/2017 5:45:37 PM PDT by x
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We have identity politics whether you want them or not. Whether you believe in it or not. Identity politics is the reality of our nation.


18 posted on 08/16/2017 5:48:06 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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Wow. This from MOther JOnes? That makes The Nation, Salon and MOther Jones together telling it like it is.

This article makes you chew on the fact that street battle will be against our human will. This explains why we lean back and talk big but decline to act.

According to MJ here, these radicals don’t like doing what they are doing, but concluded that they must answer the enemies America.


29 posted on 08/16/2017 6:26:24 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Academia are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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Spencer and Kessler are commiepuke agent provocateurs. Anyone teaming up with them is being duped big time.


33 posted on 08/16/2017 6:49:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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Richard Spencer should be sent to GITMO and water boarded ...


39 posted on 08/16/2017 7:09:43 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (i WANNA HEAR MORE GLOATING!)
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To: SarahPalin2012

When is the rally to tear down the organization responsible for racism in the USA...the DNC?


45 posted on 08/16/2017 7:56:27 PM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government.)
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Lee is a tainted cause. He’s traditional, yes... that’s where he comes within the conservative bailiwick.

He also represents a worldview that considered some men so little that it was felt they were best enslaved. Yup, our dear ole lefties. Margaret Sanger as another example.

“States rights” are a travesty when they are used by states to do wrongs that transcend the authority under God of states.

For a devilish fuss to erupt over General Lee over a century and a half later seems oddly apropos. He isn’t a rightly conservative cause. Now remembering the Civil War as well as taking the lessons it taught IS a rightly conservative cause. Maybe the protest should have been to add Grant, not against removing Lee.


48 posted on 08/17/2017 12:12:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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Most of our peers are still trying to figure out under just which conditions they can agree to get out of the dugout and the opposing team is on the field, cheered on by the BSM and putting points on the board unopposed. No wonder our “leadership” is called the “stupid party”. I am reminded of Bill Colby’s old sketch about his college football team. Most of the team was grateful for the scholarship but didn’t want to actually have to risk getting hurt by playing so they would show up to games wearing snowshoes and scuba gear. It was hilarious.


53 posted on 08/17/2017 12:10:05 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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That old racist Robert E. Lee

Now some truth about the southern General:

HISTORY OF THE LIFE
of Rev. Wm. Mack Lee

I was born June 12, 1835, Westmoreland County, Va.; 82 years ago. I was raised at Arlington Heights, in the house of General Robert E. Lee, my master. I was cook for Marse Robert, as I called him, during the civil war and his body servant. I was with him at the first battle of Bull Run, second battle of Bull Run, first battle of Manassas, second battle of Manassas and was there at the fire of the last gun for the salute of the surrender on Sunday, April 9, 9 o'clock, A. M., at Appomatox, 1865.

The following is a list of co-generals who fought with Marse Robert in the Confederate Army: Generals Stonewall Jackson, Early, Longstreet, Kirby, Smith, Gordon from Augusta, Ga. Beauregard from Charleston, S. C., Wade Hampton, from Columbia, S. C., Hood, from Alabama, Ewell Harrison from Atlanta, Ga., Bragg, cavalry general from Chattanooga, Tenn., Wm. Mahone of Virginia, Pickett, Forest, of Mississippi, Mosby, of Virginia, Willcox, of Tennessee, Lyons, of Mississippi, Charlimus, of Mississippi, Sydney Johnston, Fitzhugh Lee, nephew of Marse Robert, and Curtis Lee, his son.

The writer of this little book, the body servant of Gen. Robert E. Lee, had the pleasure of feeding all these men at the headquarters in Petersburg, the battles of Decatur, Seven Pines, the Wilderness, on the plank road between Fredericksburg and Orange County Court House, Chancellorsville, The Old Yellow Tavern, in the Wilderness, Five Forks, Cold Harbor, Sharpsburg, Boonesville, Gettysburg, New Market, Mine Run, Cedar Mountain, Civilian, Louisa Court House, Winchester and Shenandoah Valley.

At the close of the struggle, General Lee said to General Grant: "Grant, you didn't whip me, you just overpowered me, I surrender this day 8,000 men; I do not surrender them to you, I surrender on conditions; it shall not go down in history I surrendered the Northern Confederate Army of Virginia to you. It shall go down in history I surrendered on conditions; you have ten men to my one; my men, too, are barefooted and hungry. If Joseph E. Johnston could have gotten to me three days ago I would have cut my way through and gone back into the mountains of North Carolina and would have given you a happy time." What these conditions were I do not know, but I know these were Marse Robert's words on the morning of the surrender: "I surrender to you on conditions."

At the close of the war I did not know A from B, although I had been preaching two years before the war. I was married six years before the war. My wife died in 1910. I am the father of eight daughters and I have twenty-one grand children and eight great-grand children. My youngest child is 42 years old.

I was raised by one of the greatest men in the world. There was never one born of a woman greater than Gen. Robert E. Lee, according to my judgment. All of his servants were set free ten years before the war, but all remained on the plantation until after the surrender.

The following from the Bedford Bulletin, a paper published in the town of Bedford, Va., which town I am now visiting, situated in the mountains in full view of the famous Peaks of Otter; while soliciting means here to finish my church near Norfolk, I caught inspiration to give the readers of this little book, my friends, and friends and admirers of Marse Robert, a brief history of his body servant and cook, the Rev. William Mack Lee, and will, I hope, cause you to purchase one at the price named on back of same, as I will never be able to write another; I am too old.

59 posted on 08/17/2017 5:12:40 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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