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To: SarahPalin2012

No. The most important propaganda ploy right now, in fact the key propaganda ploy, is the effort to tie conservatism, classic liberal constitutionalism, and its Judeo-Christian moral foundation, to the KKK. Doing this relieves them of needing to actually debate principle, and it makes the very foundation of the country philosophically off limits to anyone who falls for their sleight of hand.

And it absolves the DNC for its own historical guilt.

Classic racism equates skin color with culture, and culture with character. “Neo-racism” of the kind the left promotes, does the same thing albeit in reverse. The very principles that set men free are labeled racist, and the fascists on the left get away with it. The principles that make it possible to live good, productive, morally decent lives are labeled “white privilege” when in fact they are available to anyone who will accept and live by them. Its a propaganda sleight of hand, and there is no shortage of people who fall for it, and quite a few people on the supposed “right” who take the bait.

We are going to be set up again and again, until we learn to not take the bait, and to stand together. When confronted about Confederate paraphernalia, just remind them that these are Democrat monuments. We play for the other team.

Notice another aspect of the “sleight of hand”. Milo would be “alt-right” because he is conservative on some issues, but obviously not on social issues. But by labeling KKK as some kind of “alt-right”, Milo gets lumped in with them for propaganda purposes. We have to avoid playing their game.


7 posted on 08/16/2017 5:24:40 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron

HRC spent years slobbering on ‘Sheets’ Byrd.


8 posted on 08/16/2017 5:27:37 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: marron

That’s quite silly. If a conservative believes that General Lee’s statue should not be removed from Lee Park, and attends the rally for that reason — the Antifa will not make distinctions whether you are in fact a White Nationalist or a classical conservative. You will get hit with the fire extinguisher (see a few posts below this one which links the Joey Salads video going undercover into the Antifa).

The Antifa are anarchists and they are a destructive mob. They will not reason with you that you are a reasonable person. Once they’ve gotten more power, you will not be be even given a chance to explain your “Christian moral foundation”. If you need proof, go to a Trump rally where there is the Antifa, and try to reason with them. But watch out for the bicycle lock and the fire extinguisher.


11 posted on 08/16/2017 5:33:32 PM PDT by SarahPalin2012
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To: marron

You don’t get it. The left is already protesting against statues of Thomas Jefferson and even Teddy Roosevelt.

Do you really think saying “the Confederates were Democrats” will somehow disarm the left’s arguments or make them stop?


22 posted on 08/16/2017 6:07:04 PM PDT by WatchungEagle
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To: marron

Good points. I’m wondering if we’re getting suckered into supporting statues which represent a failed political/cultural and military history. Are not these symbols of democratic hubris who now want to pin their legacy on Republicans, conservatives and Trump supporters? By walking down the streets with packs of National Socialists the true fascists, wannabe KKKs, white nationalists true conservatives are being yoked to trouble.National socialists, KKK types, white nationalists want a race war. They share something in common with ANTIFA, anarchists, BLMs, communists, etc. i.e., an overthrow of the existing order and the Constitutional Republic.

To me, conservatives should find their walking papers in supporting causes not associated with statues of a confederacy. Let the Democrats live with their legacy and let the conservatives and Republicans let them eat their own history cause we’ll remind them of it every chance we can.

When conservatives walk the streets they must be careful to cleanse their midst as much as possible of white nationalists and national socialists etc. Then take up causes on principles not on upholding a democratic legacy.

I tried to do a little research on the Robert E Lee statue. It was was commissioned in 1917 by the National Sculpture Society and philanthropist Paul Goodloe McIntire. I tried to find out his political affiliations I couldn’t find anything but maybe my research wasn’t that great. Just some thoughts.

George Washington and the founders is another issue entirely. And that is a principled opposition to their removal.


30 posted on 08/16/2017 6:32:06 PM PDT by Lent
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To: marron

yes, indeed. And I understand Dineesh DeSousa has just written a book explaining why the KKK is rightfully considered fascist — and ALT-LEFT, not right.


34 posted on 08/16/2017 6:49:41 PM PDT by poconopundit (CNN is... Corruption News Neglected)
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