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'We were at Dunkirk, too' say French furious at being written out of film epic
ibtimes.co.uk ^ | July 22, 2017 13:11 BST | Isabelle Gerretsen

Posted on 07/22/2017 9:06:51 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Around 30,000 French troops held back Nazi divisions near the city of Lille to protect their allies during the evacuation code-named Operation Dynamo.

Renowned French film critic Jacques Mandelbaum called Nolan "witheringly impolite" and slammed the director's "deplorable indifference" towards his country's contribution to the epic evacuation.

"Where in the film are the 120,000 French soldiers who were also evacuated from Dunkirk? Where are the 40,000 who sacrificed themselves to defend the city against a superior enemy in weaponry and numbers?" he asked in his review in French newspaper Le Monde.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: dunkirk; france; frenchtroops; hollywood; militaryhistory; moviereview
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To: bravo whiskey
" Just ask any Canadian about Vimy and Passchendaele, or Dieppe in'42."

My great-uncle was with the 38th Battalion Canadian Expeditionary Forces in WWI, and fought at the Battle of Drocourt–Quéant Line. He was wounded on September 2, 1918 while crossing the Arras-Cambrai Road, near the village of Dury, while advancing on the line. He was shot in the body by a German machine gun, and died of his wounds on September 8, 1918. He's buried in Terlincthun British Cemetery near Boulogne, France.

181 posted on 07/22/2017 5:20:27 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: GraceG

Pas de nouveau cette merde....

This old chestnut again?

The photo is of a crowd watching French troops embarking for overseas French territories and taking famous regimental colors with them to prevent their capture.


182 posted on 07/22/2017 5:21:21 PM PDT by skepsel (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: KC_Lion

<< Why wasn’t the “Great French Republic” defended to the bitter end and then some by it’s citizens? >:(>>

Lessee....

*The specter of four years of bloodshed over twenty years earlier—a good bit of it for nothing—loomed heavily over France’s politics and culture for decades. They began rearming in 1938-39, but unlike the US they had not spent years preparing their industries for the job, and it was a classic case of too little, too late.

*Communists...lots of Communists. Seriously. At the time of the invasion, Stalin and Hitler were still buddies. So guess who the French Communists tacitly backed via industrial sabotage?

*The people as a whole thought France’s “democratic” government was a tad weak.

*The merchant class feared Bolshevism more than the Germans.

*The French officer corps was so conservative (Old World speaking) as to be almost monarchic in their leanings. They weren’t too thrilled about the existing government either. And the top generals were still stuck on the previous war, both in terms of tactics and refusing to recognize that time and technology had moved on from 1918.

All that said, the French sustained casualties of well over 100,000 in the weeks from invasion to surrender. That’s not cutting and running, that’s standing and dying while being out-thought and out-fought.

Worth watching...politics aside, this is really good television:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_village_fran%C3%A7ais


183 posted on 07/22/2017 5:56:44 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: dfwgator

yeah the Battle of Britain movie is one of my favorite I actually saw it when it first came out in the theaters had my dad take me

I just watched it again on TV the other day


184 posted on 07/22/2017 6:03:16 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: BushCountry
Actually, I know the French have a long list of historical battles that they won and won against terrible odds.

They certainly won this battle. ;)


185 posted on 07/22/2017 6:08:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: M1903A1

I’m kind of partial to this show.

Allo, Allo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Allo_%27Allo!


186 posted on 07/22/2017 6:10:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

They weren’t left out of the movie. They are shown holding the town and at the end they were being evacuated.


187 posted on 07/22/2017 6:30:06 PM PDT by carton253 (Jesus is everything.)
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To: BenLurkin
Did they see it? I just got home from seeing it.

There were French.

There were Blacks.

There were women.

All in a story centered around about two dozen English soldiers and civilians.

188 posted on 07/22/2017 6:30:09 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: GraceG

That’s not a funny meme.


189 posted on 07/22/2017 6:30:46 PM PDT by carton253 (Jesus is everything.)
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To: LS

It wasn’t the son that was wounded in the small yacht, but a friend of the son’s. I thought it was great and highly recommend it.


190 posted on 07/22/2017 6:33:34 PM PDT by carton253 (Jesus is everything.)
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To: dfwgator

Wow, I haven’t thought of that show in almost thirty years.

I remember some plot point about a famous painting being smuggled about, called the “Fallen Madonna with the Big B**bies”....

(Yes, really. This is a Britcom, after all.)


191 posted on 07/22/2017 6:36:45 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: BushCountry

The French General asked why the British soldiers wore red uniforms. He was explained, it was red because that way if a soldier was bleeding, other soldiers would not notice and panic. The French General promptly order khaki colors for French soldiers.


192 posted on 07/22/2017 6:37:02 PM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans: The woo & pursue people who will never vote for them (liberals & media))
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To: Snickering Hound

According to some records Coltitz was under orders from Hitler to burn the city to the ground rather than surrender it to the Allies. Parisians begged him to ignore the order. He surrendered to the Allies without following Hitler’s express orders.


193 posted on 07/22/2017 6:42:51 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: entropy12

Ironically, it was the French government’s insistence on red pants for their troops (along with a nice shiny brass belt buckle front-and-center) that helped them lose over 500,000 troops in six months in 1914.


194 posted on 07/22/2017 6:43:49 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: Snickering Hound
If you have Netflix, try 'My Honor Was Loyalty'. It's a German 'Band of Brothers' that takes place on the Russian front.

There's also "Generation War" (German Title: Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter)

195 posted on 07/22/2017 6:46:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: manc

The speaker wasn’t Churchill.
He wasn’t referenced other than 10 seconds at the conclusion of the show...


196 posted on 07/22/2017 7:11:50 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: LS

Disappointed. Thanks for saving me the price of admission.

On a good note HACKSAW RIDGE is on HBO tonight.


197 posted on 07/22/2017 7:33:42 PM PDT by weston (SO HERE'S THE STORY: As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: LS

I saw only 1 movie in last 15 years, which was by Dinesh D’Souza about Hillary. As one who arrived here at age 20, I never had the opportunity to learn much American History, but learned a lot in that movie.

I do not like Hollywood culture, so I refuse to subsidize them.


198 posted on 07/22/2017 7:53:37 PM PDT by entropy12 (Republicans: The woo & pursue people who will never vote for them (liberals & media))
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I never said he was the speaker I said they stated his speech.


199 posted on 07/22/2017 7:54:51 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: M1903A1

France defaults on their WWI war debt with the US in 1932. Hitler comes to power in 1933.

They then fall under the Johnson Act prohibiting them from selling war bonds in the US. There are also some Neutrality Acts keeping them from buying armaments.

By the time this is all untangled (The French trade bases in the Caribbean to be able to sell bonds) and the American factories are tooled, the Germans are on the march.

Much of the material they bought ended up going to the Brits.


200 posted on 07/22/2017 8:01:01 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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