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Lawbreaking Particles May Point to a Previously Unknown Force in the Universe
Scientific American ^ | 17 Jul, 2017 | Jesse Dunietz

Posted on 07/18/2017 7:46:52 PM PDT by MtnClimber

Scientists aren’t yet certain that electrons and their relatives are violating the Standard Model of particle physics, but the evidence is mounting.

For decades physicists have sought signs of misbehaving particles—evidence of subtle cracks in the “Standard Model” of particle physics, the dominant theory describing the most fundamental building blocks of our universe. Although the Standard Model has proved strikingly accurate, scientists have long known some adjustments will be needed. Now, as a recent review paper in Nature documents, experimenters have started seeing suggestions of particles flouting the theory—but they’re not quite the violations theorists were looking for. The evidence comes from electrons and their more massive cousins, muons and tau leptons. According to the Standard Model, these three particles should behave like differently sized but otherwise identical triplets. But three experiments have produced growing evidence—including results announced in just the last few months—that the particles react differently to some as-yet mysterious influence. The findings are not yet conclusive, but if they hold up, “it would be a complete revolution,” says California Institute of Technology theorist Mark Wise.

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KEYWORDS: physics; trumparticles
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To: MtnClimber

Where are Mueller and Comey on this?

We need an investigation and who are better qualified to find broken laws?


21 posted on 07/18/2017 10:18:45 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: crazy scenario

Studying Morons is a dangerous bidness.


22 posted on 07/18/2017 10:21:14 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: Paladin2

Of course they could be Kleptons.


23 posted on 07/18/2017 10:21:58 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: MtnClimber

I am naming the unknown particle: the Gimmefreesh1t particle.


24 posted on 07/18/2017 10:22:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mrsmith

In Theory, there is no difference between Theory and Practice....


25 posted on 07/18/2017 10:25:17 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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To: neverevergiveup

However, unless we accept the premise that there are no absolutes regarding how matter and energy behave in the universe, then we have to accept that we don’t really have an explanation that holds up to all scrutiny and all contexts.
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Makes sense that no absolutes thing. No beginning of time, no end of time...eternity. Let’s call it the “God Particle”.


26 posted on 07/18/2017 10:30:27 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: robert14

I think this news is about 5 years old as well.


27 posted on 07/18/2017 10:41:12 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: MtnClimber
“For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” ― Robert Jastrow, God and the Astronomers
28 posted on 07/18/2017 11:33:10 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: MtnClimber

“Scientists aren’t yet certain that electrons and their relatives are violating the Standard Model of particle physics, but the evidence is mounting.”

How arrogant can you get??

If anything is doing the violating, it’s the Standard Model, not nature. Nature ain’t about to change to make any model happy.


29 posted on 07/19/2017 12:08:19 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: aquila48

I recall back in physic’s class (college probably) where the prof was talking about electron levels, and how an electron could NEVER go above a certain threshold. Like a basketball player that could NEVER jump higher than 9’ 10”.

“Now then - how many times will the player have to jump to get over 9’ 10” tall?”

“He can’t!”

“Well, you would be wrong. Because sometimes we DO see electrons in those higher levels. So if they have enough energy they STILL can make it to those levels - even though they aren’t supposed to.”

Well - at least that’s how I remember the discussion. There was lots of stuff like that - which STILL doesn’t make sense to me.

Like “How fast does a train that is two miles long have to be going to be able to fit inside a one-mile-long tunnel?”


30 posted on 07/19/2017 12:28:30 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: 21twelve

“Like “How fast does a train that is two miles long have to be going to be able to fit inside a one-mile-long tunnel?””

That’s from the theory of relativity that claims the train would shrink as it approaches the velocity of light.

But the tunnel relative to the train is also moving at close to the velocity of light, so what shrinks, the train or the tunnel? And why?


31 posted on 07/19/2017 12:42:20 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: MtnClimber

How do they behave in the presence of coptrons?


32 posted on 07/19/2017 12:52:34 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: MtnClimber
The findings are not yet conclusive, but if they hold up, “it would be a complete revolution,” says California Institute of Technology theorist Mark Wise.

Well, then get hopping and let us know what the conclusive findings are, instead of spreading unscientific speculations.

33 posted on 07/19/2017 4:27:05 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: Moltke

So, they found the elusive “God particle”. It told them to “build an ark”. (Scott Adams, Dilbert)


34 posted on 07/19/2017 5:20:08 AM PDT by salmon76
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To: Flick Lives

LOL! That’s actually exactly correct. There are no “laws” here. Only theories. And I suspect that subtle point got right by the author. Which makes you wonder why he’s writing in Scientific American.


35 posted on 07/19/2017 5:22:10 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: salmon76

Ha, good one!


36 posted on 07/19/2017 5:44:13 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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To: MtnClimber
It is the Standard Model. All models are wrong. Some models are useful. A real scientist knows this and expects it. Fake scientists fake their data to protect their model.
37 posted on 07/19/2017 5:54:15 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: MtnClimber
It is the Standard Model. All models are wrong. Some models are useful. A real scientist knows this and expects it. Fake scientists fake their data to protect their model.
38 posted on 07/19/2017 5:54:36 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: MtnClimber

I love true science. Each discovery opens a window with its answer, but peering out each new window we see we now have even more questions than we knew existed before that window was open.

Put another way: Discovering the universe with science is like trying to peel back an onion of infinite layers, and peeling back just one layer shows even more layers than we knew existed before.


39 posted on 07/19/2017 5:59:00 AM PDT by Wuli
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