Posted on 07/03/2017 6:20:40 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
Archaeologists have discovered an area in Thomas Jefferson's plantation home that was once the living quarters of Sally Hemings - a slave with whom he is believed to have had six children. Her room, which was built in 1809 and was 14 feet, 8 inches wide and 13 feet long, was next to Thomas Jefferson's room. However, the bedroom went unnoticed for decades and the area was even made into a men's bathroom in 1941.
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1833 October 27. (Martha Jefferson Randolph to Ellen Wayles Randolph Coolidge). “Jefferson and Lewis went up to gether when the papers were moved, and every drawer, press, closet, and cranny of the room were thoroughly searched and emptied, even the little closet above the alcove.”13
“As I understand it, DNA testing only pointed to a “male in the Jefferson line,” not necessarily Thomas.”
Didn’t she travel with him to France?
I’d say that percentage holds true among black people in the United States today, but attributing it all to owners taking advantage of women bound to them is an error and an historical slur.
And, whether or not you’re a fan of Oprah, you trade in the same emotion-based codswallop and love wallowing in immorality under the guise of truth and “being real,” or at least that’s my perception at the moment. So, you’re an unwitting victim of trashy pop culture whether you’re willing to admit that or not.
I don’t tend to post entire articles, but I’m all for research.
You think it trashes his reputation. His reputation AT THE TIME was that of a randy individual.
These people were just men, no more, no less. To deny that is just crazy.
He had feet of clay. We all do. That doesn’t take away from what he accomplished.
Errors and omissions repeatedly made in one direction only are not in fact errors and omissions. I’ve learned that the hard way in life and in business.
You’ve repeatedly made errors and omissions in one direction only, here.
Explain yourself.
"Thomas Jefferson wrote to his daughter Martha in 1815, "In the closet over my bed you will find a bag tied up, and labelled 'Wolf-skin pelisse,' and another labelled 'fur-boots,' wherein those articles will be found."
The "closet" refers to a small storage space above the bed, ventilated by three oval-shaped, porthole-like openings. The storage space is reached through the doorway to the right of the head of the bed, which conceals a ladder-like set of stairs."
I’ve posted from original sources. If the children and grandchildren contradicted themselves, so be it.
You’ve posted incomplete cites and please point out any contradictions among family when cited in full, which you’ve thus far not done without shall we say encouragement.
It's interesting that he'd go out of his way to point out where one slave of many supposedly lived.
You’ll have to source your complaint.
My source is this thread and your replies contained therein.
The people in question were free people of color.
If you can refute what has been posted, by all means do so.
That’s how this works.
If you can post complete cites going forward containing not just scurrilous attempts to imply something that known facts do not support while neglecting to cite family members refuting it, please do. I’d appreciate that.
The onus is upon you to state what you think is incorrect.
It is incorrect to cite only proponents of your favored theory while neglecting or misrepresenting opposition. That’s called bias.
It’s not my “theory.” It’s history and science.
If you think something I’ve posted is incorrect, it’s your job to substantiate your thoughts on the matter.
> It’s interesting that he’d go out of his way to point out where one slave of many supposedly lived.
There’s no indication that he [the grandson Randolph] went “out of his way” to lead Randall to that spot. Rather they were walking through Monticello (”Walking about mouldering Monticello one day”) when he pointed it out.
Obviously the topic was of special interest, though — accusations against Jefferson having been publicized widely during early political campaigns — and Randolph used the occasion to tell Randall a few things about it.
You’ve posted quotations about closets associated with storage near Jefferson’s bed, but I’ve seen nothing about Sally having lived there (and would be stunned to see proof that she did). Randolph, on the other hand, provides testimony — from a person who at the time when Sally’s children were born there “had charge of Monticello” — that Sally’s room was “in one of the collonades [modern spelling “colonnades”]”. He also provides significant testimony about the conduct of Thomas and other persons while he was living there.
Earlier you’d implied that that this grandson’s inference from the resemblance “at dusk” was that Thomas Jefferson was the father.
> Did he say he believed Thomas was the father? [GJones2]
> When he wrote that the child looked so much like Jefferson that one would think it WAS Jefferson, what is the inference? [Bodleian_Girl]
In this letter in which the “at dusk” remark is recorded, though, he emphatically denies such an inference (”...there was not the shadow of suspicion that Mr. Jefferson in this or any other instance ever had commerce with his female slaves...and...no person ever living at Monticello dreamed of such a thing”).
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