Posted on 07/03/2017 6:20:40 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
Archaeologists have discovered an area in Thomas Jefferson's plantation home that was once the living quarters of Sally Hemings - a slave with whom he is believed to have had six children. Her room, which was built in 1809 and was 14 feet, 8 inches wide and 13 feet long, was next to Thomas Jefferson's room. However, the bedroom went unnoticed for decades and the area was even made into a men's bathroom in 1941.
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A 1998 DNA study found that a male descendant of Eston Hemings Jefferson matched the rare Y-chromosome of the Jefferson male line.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Beverly_Pearson#cite_note-Foster-10
The Jefferson male line then contained a number of candidates, whereas you’ve been contending that DNA testing somehow ruled out other contemporary Jefferson males.
I believe Louisiana has a lot of “crossover”, also, as it were.
No, I think the records that Thomas Jefferson and others kept rule out the other ones.
Disgusting. I hope at least some refused to apologize for something they didn't do. But I imagine peer pressure, cameras, fear of looking "racist," and/or worship of Oprah caused them to stand like a bunch of sheep and bleat their apologies.
More than here or Virginia, or East Tennessee for that matter, some of them went down the valley and through the Cumberland Gap instead of coming here.
Up the valley, sorry, their terminology always seems backwards to me. It’s not north-south as far as up or down but altitude, which is lower in the north and higher in the south.
What about the Melungeons!
I don’t think many of them liked the DNA study when it was published.
Well, you’re going to believe what you’re going to believe and the same is true of others such as myself. DNA only proves historic relation in the male line, it proves nothing else. I know that well, as should you.
There are confabulated legends of their origins, Turks or Portuguese or Moors or The Lost Colony. All that can be said is that they're an Appalachian tri-racial isolate group, there are several of those scattered along the state lines shared by NC, VA and TN.
The historic records prove that Thomas Jefferson was always at Monticello during her times of conception.
It seems to have also been common knowledge among his white grandchildren who lived at Monticello.
“Ellen Wayles Randolph Coolidge, Jefferson’s white granddaughter, who had moved with her mother, Martha Randolph, and her father and brothers and sisters to Monticello in 1809, knew the Hemings children well. All of Sally’s children were “fair,” she wrote privately to her husband in 1858, and “all set free at my grandfather’s death, or had been suffered to absent themselves permanently before he died.” She wrote further in this revealing letter:
“It was his principle (I know that of my own knowledge) to allow such of his slaves as were sufficiently white to pass for white men, to withdraw quietly from the plantation; it was called running away, but they were never reclaimed. I remember four instances of this, three young men and one girl, who walked away and staid away. Their whereabouts was perfectly known but they were left to themselves—for they were white enough to pass for white.”
Ellen’s brother, Thomas Jefferson Randolph, in a confidential interview with an early Jefferson biographer, admitted that Sally Hemings “had children which resembled Mr. Jefferson so closely that it was plain that they had his blood in their veins.” In one case, he said, “the resemblance was so close, that at some distance in the dusk the slave, dressed in the same way, might have been mistaken for Mr. Jefferson.”
http://www.americanheritage.com/content/thomas-jefferson%E2%80%99s-unknown-grandchildren
“Researchers published an article in 2012 summarizing the DNA results. The female ancestors were shown to have had European DNA, while male ancestors had DNA from African or European haplogroups. Only one male had a Native American haplogroup.”
No need to post this twice, Bodleian_Girl, I saw it the first time. I get it, you believe. I highly doubt it for reasons of my own, or perhaps I’m just in thrall to the Slave Power™ and am racist. /s
the funniest thing now is the scam of doing DNA testing for a fee which the company can then sell to researchers.
As I said, a tri-racial isolate group. What other races were present there at that time? I’m certainly neither shocked nor surprised.
I descend from a few of them, if you haven’t figured that out by now.
Did you read her entire letter? She seemed to say that there was no way her grandfather was carrying on in such a way right there in the house with his children and grandchildren.
My apologies, it’s been a busy thread.
I personally don’t equate this issue with racism. Most of the children were so white, they moved into the white community.
I think history is important and to me, it doesn’t lower or raise my opinion of Thomas Jefferson.
At the end of the day he was a young man with a dead wife and a slave sleeping just feet from him who looked like his wife.
I’m not saying it was the right thing to do, but what’s done is done and I think it’s interesting to contemplate.
I think she and her brother both tried to blame the white, red-headed slave children on the Carr brothers, but science has ruled that out.
I think the surprise was that none of them wanted to acknowledge that they were descended from the black race and tried to pan off the dark skin as Turkish or Portuguese.
It’s just an interesting aspect of that area’s history.
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