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Marine Corps Considers Ending Policy of “Every Marine is a Rifleman”
AmericaFlashNews.com ^ | May 8, 2017 | Admin

Posted on 05/10/2017 4:05:22 PM PDT by huldah1776

The United State’s military may be about to undergo a radical change. The Marine Corps Times is reporting that there’s an initiative in the works that might see Marines branch out, away from the traditional model that trained every member of the Corps on the basics of physical combat. Some of the new Marines may even skip basic training.

The idea gained momentum almost a year ago, when Former Defense Secretary Ash Carter suggested a military build up required soldiers with computer skills, and that these new recruits might be able to move into units with credit for their civilian expertise and experience acknowledged in the form of advanced rank.

The concept seemed ridiculous to many Marines who begin their military careers with rigorous physical training and a battery of drills designed to increase their proficiency with small arms.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: dod; it; marinecorps; marines; obamasfault; usmc
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To: dasboot

Marine band in Europe at the “Battle of the Bulge”?
What Marines were in Europe other then the few on shipboard ?

I think it was a Marine brigade/battalion that took over Iceland garrison duty from the British in late 1940 or early 1941. (We weren’t officially in the war yet!) If I remember that right that’s the only Marine activity of any kind in Europe during WWII.


41 posted on 05/10/2017 5:03:31 PM PDT by Reily
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To: shanover

Welcome Home! Had to look up that anacronym. :) Hence, my #1 reply. I don’t understand why the Army doesn’t train more AFTER basic. Although, the sequester cut the training in almost half for all services. I hope they spend their new budget wisely.


42 posted on 05/10/2017 5:09:44 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: huldah1776

43 posted on 05/10/2017 5:10:15 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: huldah1776

Now that is a “Potentially” stupid policy change by the Marines or any of the military services.

What happens if your a computer operator or programmer and just happen to be working behind the lines when suddenly a terror attack occurs.Now what are you going to do? Throw your keyboard or grab your weapon and fight back?

Of all the services I would expect the Marines and the Army to recall the attacks by the Viet Cong during the Tet Offensive.

Every military member should be more than qualified to use his weapons to defend him/Her self.


44 posted on 05/10/2017 5:10:29 PM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: DesertRhino

My son had just left the stan at the time. Those who are deliberately destroying the nation and our military want to have their own commie revolution so having a well trained and ready to go military and veterans doesn’t fit well with their plan. IMHO

come to think of it, (had to look it up) 24% of men are vets but only 2% of women.


45 posted on 05/10/2017 5:15:23 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: huldah1776

Being a Former Marine,I do hope and pray that SecDef General Mattis will put an end to this lunacy. The Freakin’ OBAMA Regime used our military as a social engineering group experiment, that went badly. Every Marine Was,Is and Always will be a Basic Rifleman.PERIOD.


46 posted on 05/10/2017 5:27:31 PM PDT by MGunny
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To: huldah1776

As the son of a United States Marine and a U.S. Sailor myself, i would respectfully say to anyone mucking around with this particular concept to go piss up a rope.

What’s next? Every sailor is not a firefighter?


47 posted on 05/10/2017 5:38:10 PM PDT by wheresmyusa (FTUN)
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To: Reily
The Lore of the Corps During WWII, Marines fought in Europe, Africa By Philip Ewing and Michael Hoffman - mhoffman@militarytimes.com Posted : August 20, 2007

Public perception has long been that during World War II the Corps owned the war in the Pacific and the war in Europe belonged to the Army.

But the truth is that just as Army units followed the Marines on the Pacific campaigns, leathernecks were on the ground in Europe and North Africa.

They may have been overshadowed by their compatriots fighting on the other side of the world, but the Marines who served in the European theater of operations made important contributions, according to retired Lt. Col. Harry Edwards’ book “A Different War: Marines in Europe and North Africa.”

“These were not large Marine formations, but were, for the most part, individual Marines and small detachments assigned to guard duty at the barracks and naval operating bases established in the United Kingdom, or men assigned as ‘sea-going’ Marines in the detachments of the large fighting ships,” Edwards wrote.

Marines volunteered for service in the Office of Strategic Services, infiltrating European and North African countries occupied by the Germans to establish spy networks.

Marines helped fight fires as air raid wardens in London; a Marine born in Lebanon served as translator between President Roosevelt and a Saudi prince; and many Marines accompanied Navy ships in convoys and during amphibious invasions.

During the summer of 1941, the U.S. sent a detachment of Marines to Reykjavik, the capital of Iceland, to protect U.S. shipping interests, according to retired Col. James A. Donovan’s book “Outpost in the North Atlantic: Marines in the Defense of Iceland.”

Marines also trained with the British Army and Royal Marines, marching long distances, practicing maneuvering down cliffs and learning to cross a stream by sliding down a zip-line tied between two trees on either bank.

Although most of the Operation Overlord invasion force comprised American, British and Canadian soldiers, Marines were part of the massive fleet off Normandy that supported it.

From 1942 to 1944, the Corps deployed leathernecks to the naval base in Londonberry, Northern Ireland, to help protect it from German attacks and sabotage attempts by militant members of the Irish Republican Army, according to Edwards.

After Berlin fell, the Corps changed the name of its detachment at the embassy to Marine Detachment, U.S. Naval Forces, Europe.

The unit ultimately earned the American Defense Service Streamer with a Bronze Star, the European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Streamer and the World War II Victory Streamer for its service during World War II.

Philip Ewing is deputy news editor of Navy Times. Michael Hoffman, a former Air Force intelligence officer, is deputy news editor of Marine Corps Times.

48 posted on 05/10/2017 5:38:46 PM PDT by onona
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To: onona

I do remember some in OSS.
Anyway thanks for the info!


49 posted on 05/10/2017 5:41:27 PM PDT by Reily
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To: huldah1776

Seems really extra super duper SMRT!


50 posted on 05/10/2017 5:50:20 PM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: Hugin

The reason the Marines made it out of the Chosin Reservoir in Korea is that the could replace the losses of marine infantry with cooks, clerks and mechanics. These men had been trained from their first day in boot camp that every marine is a rifleman first. They were able to go into combat skilled in the use of their weapons and a basic knowledge of combat requirements. Keyboard weenies will only die is those situations.


51 posted on 05/10/2017 5:55:54 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: huldah1776

NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

(SGT, USMC 1970-1974)


52 posted on 05/10/2017 5:59:25 PM PDT by HippyLoggerBiker (Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite and furthermore always carry a small snake.)
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To: huldah1776

AmericaFlashNews is a kook site. Do yourself a favor and beg JimRob to remove this post before everyone discovers that you’re a friggin’ nut.


53 posted on 05/10/2017 6:04:01 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: huldah1776

Maybe I should join the New Marines. No basic training and don’t even have to shoot a rifle? Sounds like a pretty soft office job. And great benefits.


54 posted on 05/10/2017 6:24:13 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Gay State Conservative

“I wonder if this means that recruits won’t have to qualify with as high a score as before.”

Yes they will. . .but it will be on a video game. . .


55 posted on 05/10/2017 6:37:39 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: GreyFriar; huldah1776
"The Marine Band musicians dropped their instruments and saved the day for a lot of soldiers getting their asses kicked at the Bulge." Image and video hosting by TinyPic Image and video hosting by TinyPic Or when the Japanese invaded Poland? Hell no!
56 posted on 05/10/2017 6:48:06 PM PDT by tumblindice ("Fight for your country." Hector)
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To: SauronOfMordor
The reason why every Marine is a rifleman, is that the supporting jobs are done by the Navy. Including medical corpsmen.

You do know Navy Corpsmen are embedded with the Marines and fight right along side them?

57 posted on 05/10/2017 6:48:44 PM PDT by Boomer (Stupid is as stupid does and no one does stupid like the left.)
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To: huldah1776

That is not what the Marine Corps has ever been, nor is it what the USMC needs to be in our future. As with every other Obama-era idea, this one is shockingly stupid.


58 posted on 05/10/2017 6:51:35 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: huldah1776; All

this is a “not only NO, but HELL no”. Moment.

Hand to hand saved my life more than once, and being able to shoot straight did too.
Ash Carter should be tried for Treason.


59 posted on 05/10/2017 6:54:04 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: TTFlyer
What a monumentally stupid idea. And so 21st century America.

Sounds more like "so 21st century Rat Party" to me.But on the plus side this policy will make it less likely that fairies in the Marines will experience panic attacks at the sound of gunfire.

60 posted on 05/10/2017 6:55:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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