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Trump, if you do this, you could lose your entire support base.

I'm serious.

But it's AP. Let's wait and see...

1 posted on 04/25/2017 2:18:38 AM PDT by cba123
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/border-wall-health-care-jeopardize-bill-days-shutdown-193738178—politics.html


2 posted on 04/25/2017 2:18:57 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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Anonymous sources = Fake news


3 posted on 04/25/2017 2:37:28 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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NO!! Pres. Trump, go to the people and plead your case.
That was the number one issue that got you elected.
Light a fire under your supporters and they will burn up the congressional phone lines.


4 posted on 04/25/2017 2:47:21 AM PDT by Vinnie
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He was elected to build the wall.

It will pay for itself in a matter of a few months. We’re spending $84 billion annually on illegal aliens.


5 posted on 04/25/2017 2:50:40 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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Sometimes you have to pick the right time for the fight. The Wall is controversial and has zero Dem support and not all GOP support it. So if Govt shuts down, GOP and of course Trump get the blame and The Wall would be the issue that caused it.

Short run - Obamacare and Tax Cut are more important.

Long run - The Wall and legal immigration

This funding gets us to September. Six months.This could be about terminology. It is not a wall it is border security. A way for both sides to win. Get some border money in exchange for Obabacare subsidy money. Another example - It was not an email investigation, it was a matter.

Only two “polls” count 2918 and 2020 and a lot can happen and will and many unexpected.


6 posted on 04/25/2017 2:54:29 AM PDT by Jimmy The Snake
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How is it that we witnessed McConnell-Boehner-Ryan dish up everything Obama wanted that the American people did not want, yet deny this President and the American people that which is so strongly expressed as a fundamental protection of security?


9 posted on 04/25/2017 3:09:07 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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The wall will happen. Illegal border crossings are already plummeting.

He ain’t losing my vote if I don’t see it immediately.

The effect is working.


11 posted on 04/25/2017 3:10:25 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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I consider myself part of Trump’s base and he isn’t going to lose me in the first 100 days because of this. This was always going to be a tough nut to crack. He has at least 1,365 days left to crack it.


13 posted on 04/25/2017 3:31:24 AM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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People who favor technology and enforcement at the border will say there is too much illegal immigration, and that this is a problem. This presupposes that there is another, lower level of illegal immigration that is just right and is not a problem.

People who favor a border wall say there is illegal immigration and that this is a problem. They have an absolute position, that says even a single person crossing the border without authorization is a crime, and that this crime must be controlled.

Trump has lately been taking the latter position. If he starts backing off the wall, this will signal that he has moved towards the “Goldilocks” position, and desires to enforce the “just right” level of illegal immigration.


15 posted on 04/25/2017 3:36:51 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (eliminate perverse incentives)
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President Donald Trump stepped back Monday from demanding a down payment for his border wall in must-past spending legislation, potentially removing a major obstacle to a bipartisan deal just days ahead of a government shutdown deadline.

Oh no, not another deadline? Not another crisis?

If this was such a crisis, why did Congress just take two weeks off?

This government by crisis is pathetic.

Oh, I forgot. When is the GOPe going to pull out their tried and true, "it was the best deal we could get?"

18 posted on 04/25/2017 3:42:32 AM PDT by JohnG45
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More concern troll bait - love the “news” leaked by those who have no sense of honor and hate that so many supposed Constitutionalists lap it up so greedily.


26 posted on 04/25/2017 4:12:01 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Trey Yingst was at this meeting and just tweeted something different about what Trump said. It’s now confirmed that this article is fake news.


30 posted on 04/25/2017 4:25:27 AM PDT by Helicondelta (Deplorable)
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IF this story is correct.............Trump said he would be willing to address in September. What’s the big deal?


42 posted on 04/25/2017 5:07:35 AM PDT by Hyman Roth
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Trump, if you do this, you could lose your entire support base.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
If he caves to the filthy, anti-American RATS on the wall, HE CAN KISS MY ASS GOODBYE!


43 posted on 04/25/2017 5:08:29 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (God, Guns, and Trump will save the USA)
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Sessions already said they have the money, or enough to start, elsewhere.

I think if Congress diesn’t do new funding Trump can creatively reassign the old authorized money that wasn’t spent. But I’m not sure.


44 posted on 04/25/2017 5:15:32 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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It’s great that Trump keeps signing executive orders, but this Congress has literally produced nothing in 3 months.

Trump has Romney running the RNC, Ryan pushing his agenda in the House, and McConnell in the Senate. This why we can’t get anything done.

Consider this, if the Dems were in similar situation feds would already be knocking on our doors to collect AR15s and our federal tax withholding tables would be 10% higher.

I would bring these McConnell Ryan and Romney into the White House tell them you have 60 days to produce wins on x, y, and z or I’ll find the best path to remove you from your role.


52 posted on 04/25/2017 5:29:01 AM PDT by RightInTheMain
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Why is the GOP using a $20B wall as a political football? THEY KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO TRUMP.

A $20B wall amortized over 4 - 8 yrs compared to a $3T annual budget would hardly be considered a budget rounding error by the OMB.

The GOPe is playing with fire.

54 posted on 04/25/2017 5:32:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Here is where I stand on this. I did not vote for Trump because of the wall, and that isn’t an issue that I care a lot about, BUT, if it means shutting down the government if he doesn’t back down, I say DON’T BACK DOWN!!!

This is an opportunity to shut down the EPA, cut all the billions going toward “global climate change”, cut unnecessary and destructive programs, and keep the money going to the poor, and the elderly. This is an opportunity to expose the evil heartlessness of the Democrats who cut necessary programs when the Republicans shut down the government, just to score political points.
They have no problem letting their constituents suffer for political payoffs. I say take full advantage. EXPOSE THEM!!!


55 posted on 04/25/2017 5:33:45 AM PDT by Saveourcountry
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He’ll lose my support if he indeed walks away from this.


74 posted on 04/25/2017 6:01:48 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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Don't let the fake media tell you that I have changed my position on the WALL. It will get built and help stop drugs, human trafficking etc. Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 5:36 AM - 25 Apr 2017 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/856849388026687492
80 posted on 04/25/2017 6:06:14 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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