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Trump administration DENIES it's considering mobilizing up to 100,000 National Guard troops...
Daily Mail ^ | 2/17/17 | David Martosko

Posted on 02/17/2017 8:12:51 AM PST by markomalley

White House press secretary Sean Spicer forcefully denied on Friday that the Trump administration is considering a proposal to mobilize as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up illegal immigrants, including millions living nowhere near the Mexico border.

'That is 100 per cent not true. It is false. It is irresponsible to be saying this,' Spicer told reporters aboard the Marine One helicopter.

'There is no effort at all to round up, to utilize the National Guard to round up illegal immigrants.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: markomalley

Even if there are posse comitatus obstacles, the militia, when called up, is constitutionally designated (art. 1, sect. 8, paragraph 15) for use in repelling invasions, enforcing the law and putting down insurrections.


81 posted on 02/17/2017 10:09:47 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: markomalley

No Posse Comitatus problem as they would be assisting federal LEOS (ICE) enforce Federal law


82 posted on 02/17/2017 10:12:32 AM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: markomalley

Is the intended implication of this slated fake news that Americans would not be ecstatic the NG was getting criminals OUT OF OUR!! country? That is laughable. How about 300,000!! Then line the border with them while we build that huge impenetrable wall!!


83 posted on 02/17/2017 10:14:47 AM PST by WENDLE (Trump RULES IMMIGRATION!! Sanctuary crap will STOP or no money. ZERO!!)
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To: jettester

My thought exactly. More to come...


84 posted on 02/17/2017 10:16:58 AM PST by gr8eman (The guys who picked last season's loser are already excited about next season's loser.)
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To: markomalley
then posse comitatus would apply

I'm pretty sure when Eisenhower federalized the Guard to assist in integrating schools in Arkansas, it was explicitly justified on the grounds that local authorities were unwilling or unable to enforce federal law.

85 posted on 02/17/2017 10:25:10 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: central_va; markomalley
Seems like another version of this:Operation Jump Start
86 posted on 02/17/2017 10:42:42 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: AU72

The way I understand the act the US govt cannot use the US military to assist in enforcing local state and municipal law. Only the FBI can do that.


87 posted on 02/17/2017 10:46:31 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: markomalley
Only good thing in that fake article was this picture...

88 posted on 02/17/2017 11:19:07 AM PST by LibTards
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To: xzins; markomalley

From Wikipedia, on Posse Comitatus:

“The Act only specifically applies to the United States Army and, as amended in 1956, the United States Air Force

... the Act does not explicitly mention the United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps

... The Act does not apply to the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard under state authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within its home state or in an adjacent state if invited by that state’s governor.

The United States Coast Guard, which operates under the Department of Homeland Security, is not covered by the Posse Comitatus Act either”


89 posted on 02/17/2017 11:29:07 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo; markomalley

My understanding is that the National Guard is, when activated, just another active duty arm of whatever service it is a part of.


90 posted on 02/17/2017 11:33:25 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: markomalley

It will happen when the time is right.


91 posted on 02/17/2017 12:01:29 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: central_va

You callin’ me a “Pussy Communist”?


92 posted on 02/17/2017 12:01:56 PM PST by Redleg Duke (He is leading us in Making America Great Again!)
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To: xzins

National Guard units can be Federalized through a formal and limited process - i.e. brought under direct Federal command - but this is rarely done (e.g. Vietnam, and a few went to Iraq).

While remaining under the command of the State Governor (the usual state), they are exempt from Posse Comitatus, and can enforce laws domestically.


93 posted on 02/17/2017 12:04:03 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

When operating under their governor, they are paid by their governor. That’s why such a deployment would beg to be federally activated. DOD has a much bigger pot of money.


94 posted on 02/17/2017 12:20:28 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: markomalley

Fake news. Did any governor request the Guard?

No.

Sheesh.

5.56mm


95 posted on 02/17/2017 12:24:35 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: xzins

Feds can, and routinely do, pay for a wide variety of National Guard expenses while they are under State control (training, schooling, disaster response, etc.).

The accounts are already established and constantly exercised - just add money.


96 posted on 02/17/2017 12:39:06 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: markomalley

That’s ok.

When it DOES happen, TRUMP CAN SAY HE FOUND OUT ON THE TV :)


97 posted on 02/17/2017 12:40:10 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper cbrust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: xzins

“such a deployment would beg to be federally activated. DOD has a much bigger pot of money.”

I think that this might be how this issue came up - Federal budget preparations, to potentially reimburse States. The budget is starting to shape up, and everyone is getting their placeholders in for the upcoming winnowing of priorities.

My understanding is that new funding for starting wall construction is expected in April (maybe May). It is possible that some Guard units might assist (SeaBees, or Engineers), stand guard (Infantry), or respond to riots/demonstrations (Military Police). Even if it is not part of the plan, it is a reasonable contingency preparation.


98 posted on 02/17/2017 12:48:50 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: linear

I think he was, but 52 is a nice round number as well. Alberta and Saskatchewan have a lot to offer heh.


99 posted on 02/17/2017 1:36:41 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: BeauBo

Now hearing Trump might have considred this idea only as a ploy to catch leakers. Multiple copies each with slight variations were handed out to multiple parties. Depending on variation leaked, they’d know who leaked it.


100 posted on 02/17/2017 2:23:14 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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