Posted on 01/12/2017 11:12:45 PM PST by Boowhoknew
A expert who is discussing causal studies on autism the CDC has covered up is on Coast to Cpoast right now 1:00 am 1/13/2017
Try suing the federal government, the judiciary, and see how far you get.
“TheNewborns need to be protected by their mother’s milk, skin, love. They are not built to be put into daycares. Baby humans need constant contact and loving supervision by ONE PERSON who loves them over all and would die for them. This is a need for our species and we are teaching ourselves away from it. “”. This is clearly the truth you write here.
The government lawyers have hijacked our healthcare.
I am sorry but you are not a vaccine expert, either in the human or veterinary arena and using anecdotal evidence is not science—chance events are not proof of anything.
Are you suggesting the jury acted with integrity?
It takes all 12.
“My best friend’s 3 1/2 year old was taken to the doc by his mom for vaccinations. When they gor home, he asked to take a nap. He didn;t really ever wake up. Totally autistic. He’s now 18 and institutionalized. He’s dangerous to be around.”
There many, many, many tragic stories just like this of completely normal children, being vaccinated (usually several pokes at once), going into a seizure within 24 hours, and being diagnosed as autistic.
Only an blind, dumb imbecile could say there is no possible connection between vaccines and autism.
We have two small children and never do more than one poke at a time and space them out by a few months at a time. These are only for those vaccines we consider important. Some vaccines we have avoided all together.
My heart goes out to these children and their parents.
“Old graveyards are full of babies who were born before vaccines were routine.”
Two absolute truths in life are death and taxes. Do you have info on their causes of death?
The death rates for most “vaccine-preventable” diseases went down 90-95% before vaccination started. Public health measures such as sanitation and clean water were a part of the reason.
“I honestly don’t think it’s the vaccines themselves, but the fact that they are given WAY earlier, and far too close together.”
For some children this may be true. They are unable to eliminate the toxins fast enough. But for some, 1 vaccine is enough to put them over the edge - probably in combination with other underlying issues, such as being vaccinated while very ill.
Also, if one even make the claim that you are making, that the shots are too earlier and too bunched together, the media mafia will hit you hard. There is NO questioning the religion of vaccination.
“This is absurd and typically something found at DU or the Daily Kos.”
Lol. Really? I’ve never been to “DU” (whatever that is) or the Daily Kos. If you can make that claim, that my post was “typical” of a liberal poster at Daily Kos, that must mean that you spend a lot of time there. Otherwise, how would you be able to say that it is “typical”?
Or was that last sentence just intended as a smear, because no intelligent argument entered your cranium?
“Do you have any notion of the mortality rates of children dying of infectious diseases in 3rd world countries, or even their livestock that die unvaccinated?”
Do you? Have you traveled internationally? Our children are some of the unhealthiest, if not THE unhealthiest children found anywhere in the Western world. Our infant and child mortality rates are awful. And we have the most heavily vaccinated children on the planet.
Are you including all of the illegal alien children when you say "our children"?
“This is absurd and typically something found at DU or the Daily Kos.”
One more thing. What’s really funny is that it is Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and the Democrat party that is more fully aligned with mandatory vaccination. It is conservatives, Christians, home schoolers and the Amish (who are also Reformed Christians) who are most likely to question vaccines. Moreover, surveys have shown that increased education correlates with more questioning of vaccines. It is the uneducated poor who are most likely to blindly follow the standard vaccine schedule.
“Are you including all of the illegal alien children when you say “our children”?”
No, I am not referring to illegals. They are more likely to be unhealthy because they are dirt poor.
Keep telling yourself that. Show me safety studies for the chemicals used in vaccines. Mere words Ad hominem and attacks are not proof.
Are you kidding?? I assume you’re referring to Wakefield. Show everyone evidence that he’s in prison and apologized.
OMG.
Stop with your tobacco science nonsense!
I’ve been having this debate for over 10 years now, and in that time I’ve heard a broad array of arguments:
Pro-vaxxer fanatic #1 claims that vaccines are not drugs.
Pro-vaxxer fanatic #2 admit that some vaccines carry more risks than others (which I agree with).
Pro-vaxxer fanatic #3 lumps 3rd world countries into the disease fatality statistics.
Pro-vaxxer fanatic #4 claims that absolutely NO Thiomersal
exists in ANY vaccines.
Pro-vaxxer fanatic #5 claims that any/all children can take an unlimited amount of vaccines and suffer 0 serious adverse reactions.
Pro-vaxxer fanatic #6 (my personal favorite) concedes that vaccines can cause serious/permanent damage to a portion of the population but blames it on “bad genes”.
So you see, its very hard for anyone who thinks critically to take any of you guys seriously. It would be great however if pro-vaxxers could hold a town meeting to get on the same page with their beliefs.
death rates for most “vaccine-preventable” diseases went down 90-95% before vaccination started. Public health measures such as sanitation and clean water were a part of the reason.””
Disease prevention has several important aspects, no doubt. However, vaccination is the most important one for several disease of the airborne or vector borne type. I find it astounding that people will fight modern medical technology while fully engaging other technology to their detriment. In 1918, Spanish flu killed over 500,000 people,in the US, (50 million worldwide)and most of those were in the 20-30 year old age bracket. We had no vaccine for viruses at the time because we didn’t know what a virus was. Another aspect of vaccine technology involves the animal world—most people outside the 3 rd world vaccinate their livestock and pets. As an example, maybe rabies is a good thing in the eyes of the Luddites. Maybe we need a food shortage to open them?
Luddite” is now a blanket term used to describe people who dislike new technology, but its origins date back to a 19th century labor movement that railed against the economic fallout of the Industrial Revolution.
I thought now they were mainly confined to the 3rd world. I was wrong.
Of course I have traveled to many countries, mostly to deliver scientific presentations. Our children are mostly over fed and under exercised. Obesity is epidemic, but that is another story.
Show me the survey. What you are saying is objecting to modern medical technology is something the educated masses object to while the uneducated favor. Another Luddite rule huh?
Here’s a tip for you and all parents, if you live in a heavily urbanized area, the biggest threat to your kids health is the air they breath at about 15 breaths per minute. The is exposure to the airborne toxicants and it is continuous. You need to consider the important threats, not the ones hyped by the anti-tech people. By the way, what is your expertise? Without doubt it is unconnected to public health or medicine.
Two things I’ll say and then I’m going to keep my peace.
1: I’m autistic. It really pisses me off that people think that my situation is SO bad that a horrible gruesome death by polio or smallpox or even the flu is somehow worse.
2: My uncle—my mother’s brother—caught the flu, or something akin to it, when he was a child. And it was BAD. Bad enough that his brain was damaged and that he’s been mentally disabled for his entire life since then.
Getting vaccinated would have stopped that and allowed him to live a normal life.
So you’ll forgive me if I’m a little combative on the topic.
You’re forgiven, and I wouldn’t be on this thread if I weren’t familiar with autism. And just some friendly advice, you are up and running, thank God, in a way that will never happen to my loved ones. So click your heels and please stop telling well educated people what they know and don’t know in regards to this vicious condition.
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