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1 posted on 12/07/2016 3:20:32 PM PST by nickcarraway
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In 1941 a CNN would have blame the US for provoking The Empire Of Japan with the oil embargo.,


2 posted on 12/07/2016 3:23:07 PM PST by AU72
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They talk about fear like there isn’t anything good that comes out of fear.

Fear can make people more careful. Fear can stop people from doing stupid things. Fear can make people think twice before doing something they would come to regret. Fear makes you examine risk and risk vs payoff. Fear is what gets a lot of people to stay away from a bad place at bad times.

They do not understand rational fears versus irrational fears. They believe all fear is irrational.

Rational fear is also healthy respect for something. Rational fear is what causes people to take precations and plan ahead for potential problems.

Rational fear doesn’t turn someone into a phobic person who can’t function normally on a daily basis, that sees trouble around every corner. That is irrational fear.

These people are just propagandists trying to spin off rational concerns and solutions as irrational. We all know they are doing this.


5 posted on 12/07/2016 3:27:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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My Grandmother told me that she was on a train to visit her Niece in Idaho on 12/7.

She said she prayed, and felt it was reveled to her that we would prevail with much suffering.

8 posted on 12/07/2016 3:30:16 PM PST by Little Bill (o)
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I mean, it's not like the we were at WAR with a country that did Invade North America and could have very easily pushed us out the Pacific entirely.

The Response to Pearl Harbor was WAY out of proportion to a war that we were LOSING.

9 posted on 12/07/2016 3:30:34 PM PST by KC_Lion ("I'm a believer that you don't need a title, and you don't need an office to make a difference"~S.P.)
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>>Americans believed that enemy spies and saboteurs lived among us. Some did, though not nearly as many as we imagined

How many did we imagine, Daniel? Have you read Magic: The Untold Story of U.S. Intelligence and the Evacuation of Japanese Residents from the West Coast During Ww II? I strongly doubt it. Japanese / Japanese-Americans were reporting home all ship movements in Long Beach harbor, for but one example, from a fishing village on a small island there.

https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Intelligence-Evacuation-Japanese-Residents/dp/0960273611

Further, Japanese / Japanese-Americans tended to send their kids back to the mother country for schooling, which very much included indoctrination in Japanese militarism. This was unlike German and Italian immigrants.

This is just another standard “Pearl Harbor was bad, but America was so evil and racist for interning the Japanese, let’s talk about that” type article. Bleh.


10 posted on 12/07/2016 3:32:16 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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It's like clockwork. Every year on December 7 the MSM focuses on the Japanese detention centers instead of the vets and the attack.

The article makes a big deal that some called them "concentration camps." At the beginning of the war the term did not have the evil connotation it had at the end. They were simply camps where people were, well, concentrated. Once we discovered the Nazis were turning concentration camps into death camps the term acquired a very different connotation.

Not to defend what happened. The Supreme Court adopted the strict scrutiny test for discrimination based on color or national origin, but then botched the application of that test in finding the internments legal.

Incidentally, the Hawaii Japanese were not interned for the practical reason that Hawaii could not function without the Japanese labor force. Japanese volunteered for the American armed forces in much higher numbers in Hawaii than in the continental U.S.

11 posted on 12/07/2016 3:34:17 PM PST by colorado tanker
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What if the Normandy invasion had occurred on June 6th, 2007?

How would the modern media have reported it?

Video: D-Day: Crisis On Omaha

14 posted on 12/07/2016 3:48:22 PM PST by Maceman (Screw the Party. Save the Country.)
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Leave it to CNN to attack the US on the 7th of December.


15 posted on 12/07/2016 3:49:44 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Something else liberals ignore from World War 2 - when Germans arrived in plain clothes intent on guerilla warfare and sabotage, we captured them and executed them per the Geneva Convention rules.
You have to wear a uniform, have a clear chain of command and try to minimize atrocities on civilians to get protection as a prisoner of war. Target civilians en mass, commit war crimes, dress up like the average person and go for sabotage - we can kill you.

WORLD WAR 2 PROVES WE HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO EXECUTE TERRORISTS.


16 posted on 12/07/2016 3:50:18 PM PST by tbw2
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Of course there was fear after Pearl Harbor.

Task Force 8, commanded by Adm. Halsey, were the only ships prepared to defend the Western Pacific.

Task Force 8 consisted of the carrier USS Enterprise, 3 cruisers and 9 destroyers.

The Japanese Fleet that attacked Pearl Harbor consisted of 6 carriers, 2 battleships, 3 cruisers, 9 destroyers, and 23 submarines.

The Japanese Fleet could have cruised up and done the West Coast destroying city and city. Or worse, destroying the Panama Canal locks.


18 posted on 12/07/2016 4:01:45 PM PST by PanzerKardinal (Some things are so idiotic only an intellectual would believe it.)
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cnn is getting theirs today withe class action lawsuit from blacks.They will look so good with that broke of in their ass.


22 posted on 12/07/2016 4:14:24 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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I had a relative who was AT Pearl Harbor when it was attacked. Her father was in the Navy.

She told me that there was a beauty shop just outside of Pearl staffed by Japanese women. When Navy wives were in the beauty shop, the staff would ask them casually what ship their hubby was on, where it was, etc.

Right after the attack, Navy Intel searched the beauty shop. They had a short wave radio in the back room.

I’ll bet that is NOT in the history books.

Another anecdote: I know a guy in Mason, Texas whose father was a petty officer in the US Navy. He told me his Dad was on active duty in 1939 in CHINA leading an infantry company against the Japanese. This remained secret for many years until his Dad told him.

I think Roosevelt authorized such secret missions knowing that we would have to engage the Empire in the Pacific sooner or later.

I’ll bet that one is not in the history books either.


23 posted on 12/07/2016 4:30:30 PM PST by darth
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TRANSLATION: "Sure, the Japanese did little sneak attack thingy....but the real danger was America! We are a bunch of RACISTS!!!!"

The Japanese, by the way, are some of the most racist people on the planet.

Oh, and they don't like blacks.....at all.


24 posted on 12/07/2016 4:31:47 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Seventy-five years ago today, hundreds of Japanese bombers attacked the American naval base at Pearl Harbor. America's shock, and its grief for the more than 2,000 US military dead on this date of "infamy" led to overwhelming unity of purpose as we entered a world war.


2403 non combatants were killed and 1178 no combatants were wounded.

There were survivors in the Arizona trapped in the hull who survived for two weeks who could not be rescued. Members of the US Navy refused to walk their watch after the bombing, because the could not stand to hear the banging by the trapped men.

EFF U CNN.

27 posted on 12/07/2016 4:42:42 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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Seventy-five years ago today, hundreds of Japanese bombers attacked the American naval base at Pearl Harbor. America's shock, and its grief for the more than 2,000 US military dead on this date of "infamy" led to overwhelming unity of purpose as we entered a world war.


2403 non-combatants were killed and 1178 non-combatants were wounded.

There were survivors in the Arizona trapped in the hull who survived for two weeks who could not be rescued. Members of the US Navy refused to walk their watch after the bombing, because the could not stand to hear the banging by the trapped men.

EFF U CNN.

29 posted on 12/07/2016 4:44:12 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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And that was the last war we won.


32 posted on 12/07/2016 4:58:58 PM PST by ebshumidors
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Though it happened almost exactly 15 years before i was born i have NEVER felt apologetic for what my country did, had to do or evolved into after this attack. I am more disgusted with the MSM today and their cowardly despicable agenda of false news and drama building that creates buzzfeed and adverising agendas.I would support MSM members being interred in camps if we had another major attack upon America. They need to know in the strongest of terms notice has geen given, will they chose poorly?


35 posted on 12/07/2016 5:45:42 PM PST by Daniel Ramsey (MAGA)
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Most of this article is baloney. I lived through that era as a teenager, and there was no atmosphere of fear. Instead, there was a determination to beat them.

My father was born in Italy, but was a naturalized American citizen. Not only was there no bias against him, he served in the Navy for two years.

As for the Japs, the US had broken the Jap code, and learned the names of individual Japanese-Americans who were either spying for Japan or ready to commit sabotage. To round up only them would have tipped the Japs that we'd broken their code. So instead the Japs were all rounded up.

Granted, not a good solution, but about the best one under the circumstances. Definitely not the "racism" the leftists have been trying to pin on the US ever since.

36 posted on 12/07/2016 5:46:21 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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Bookmarked.


37 posted on 12/07/2016 5:58:29 PM PST by Inyo-Mono
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