Posted on 11/27/2016 5:46:51 AM PST by learner
Jill does not want a recount, she wants to nullify the votes. She can do this with a slow recount that goes beyond the certification date 12/13. If a state does not certify to Congress by that date the votes do not count and Hillary wins. She can slow the count by challenges which will get them beyond the certify date. Remember Michigan just reported their final vote a week ago, almost three weeks after the election.
Uh....no. If they don’t get them counted on time it goes to the house. Trump has 260 to the hikdanpveast’s 232. Trump wins in the House. At 52-48, Pence is voted vp. It’s over either way unless by some slight of hand, Hillary wins all three recounts. Then we have civil war.
That makes the most sense.
Evil knows no bounds.
Really wish we had some definitive statements from each of the 3 states about what happens, what the law is for each state.
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Agree. This is a national issue, but at the very least, those states owe their voters an explanation of the process and the possible outcomes. This needs to be clear to those voters whose votes could be disenfranchised by the recounts (if the recounts are not completed in time).
It would seem to me that any voter in one of those states would have standing to bring a law suit against Stein.
“The state legislature can appoint electors if necessary. The Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania legislatures are all run by the GOP.”
This is true and by hefty majorities. Plus WI and MI have GOP governors but I’m ‘not sure what, if any, the governors play in the states in question. I’m sure each state has a different law on appointing electors to guarantee safe harbor. Then there are the courts in each state. Lord knows what they would decide if it came to that or the even the federal courts for that matter, keeping in mind there is a 4-4 split on the SCOTUS.
There is a lot of room for mischief but the bottom line is that time is on Trumps side since the Clinton machine et al waited three weeks to initiate the recounts.
What is missing from this whole process is a requirement for standing. Why does a candidate who has zero chance of winning the election, even after a recount, have the right to demand a recount in the first place? If Hillary wants a recount she should have to demand one herself.
We've all gotten use to the casual way Hillary lies, the way she simply ignores inconvenient laws, and the smug disdain she has for ordinary people. But have you ever noticed what a complete coward she is?
No going to happen. If the recount isn’t complete by then, the Board will certify the election based on the Official Count already certified.
allowing a candidate who only received 30,130 votes to negate the votes of trump/clinton combined 2,700,822 isn’t very democratic, is it?
What it would really accomplish (and I agree they want to nullify those States electoral college votes) is disenfranchise the votes of the People of those States and further erodes the Democrat Party - all to let them whine that Trump doesn't really have a mandate but that he was selected vs. elected.
It's gonna fail but I'm sure that trump will let them know what the intent was and how the Party that claims every vote should count tried to disenfranchise millions of voters in three States....
No going to happen. If the recount isn’t complete by then, the Board will certify the election based on the Official Count already certified. In PA, they have to convince the court that either fraud or some other kind of irregularity has occurred (Probable Cause) for the recount to take place. Of course, the interpretation of whether probable cause exists rests in the mind of the Judge.
GOP Legally Barred From Fighting Vote Fraud (11/20/2012)
"The judge, Dickinson Debevoise, appointed by Jimmy Carter, later retired but decided he would continue to control the case. The decision requires the RNC but not the DNC to refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial or ethnic composition of such districts is a factor in the decision to conduct, or the actual conduct of, such activities there and where a purpose or significant effect of such activities is to deter qualified voters from voting; and the conduct of such activities disproportionately in or directed toward districts that have a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations shall be considered relevant evidence of the existence of such a factor and purpose.
I’m much more concerned about faithless FR vanity posters. Mebbe the Electoral College will vote to ban insipid, uninformed vanities. If they fail, I’m counting on the House to save us.
Lots of BS being posted on this topic.
Bet they find George Soros up there.
Hopefully this isn’t why they have a television show Designated Survivor. What else do they have planned whatever it is is the problem.
“She only wants to act like she wants a recount in order to instill in her followers a sense that maybe Trumps presidency is not legitimate.”
I agree. It helps motivate the crazies. Expect more protests and use of the unfairness to build resentment that helps turnout the next election. They never think about pulling the country together. Only Republicans are supposed to do that.
yep
at 4-4. deadlock on the court. Trump loses.
did Breyer vote with the majority on the main question of equal protection? In Bush v Gore?
Nope. Civics 101, if neither candidate reaches the magical 270 Electoral College votes, then the US House of Representatives votes and selects the president.
This is step one in trying to undo the electoral college. The democrats will take decades to push the popular vote through to fruition and this is their opening salvo.
If Manuel Calderon down in Montevideo sub contracts with the Chechen mafia to eliminate Hillary, all her money and chicanery will not matter. She’ll be dead
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