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What kind of car would Jesus drive?
interwebs ^ | 10.23.16 | Of the webs

Posted on 10/23/2016 11:42:52 AM PDT by Dallas59

He would drive a Honda. But he wouldn't talk about it very much.

John 12:49 :

For I did not speak of my own Accord.


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To: editor-surveyor
No, I'm speaking about some other teacher, scholar, author, organization, church, authority, faith community or fellowship who have the same doctrines you do.

That is, unless you've "come upon" these views and are attempting to propagate them all by yourself, which you surely have a right to. This is America. Do your thing.

101 posted on 10/24/2016 1:20:39 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Shall I tell you? Grand Master of Jedi Order am I. Won this job in a raffle I did, think you? - Yoda)
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To: editor-surveyor
"Nice try by a propagandist... Clickable links to the entire Bible?... I realize that you don’t respect it..."

This insolent tone: is it part of your evangelization technique?

I'd guess it's not that effective, really. It makes people feel you're giving them the verbal finger.

My advice would be to hit "delete", not "send", when you find you're tending to indulge in personal digs. I fight similar temptations. I delete, daily. Probably not enough.

102 posted on 10/24/2016 1:27:50 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Shall I tell you? Grand Master of Jedi Order am I. Won this job in a raffle I did, think you? - Yoda)
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To: Dallas59

Also, he drove Adam and Eve from the garden in a Fury.


103 posted on 10/24/2016 2:11:16 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Dallas59

There were no Cars then, if Batman AND Superman got in a fight... MORONS..


104 posted on 10/24/2016 2:11:37 PM PDT by hawg-farmer - FR..October 1998 (VMFA 235 '69-'72)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

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I am aware that you want your false doctrine adhered to.

I can only accept what the word actually says plainly.

If doctrine is required to “interpret” scriptures, it is just the work of the adversary.

The original words of the Cohen Matthew, in his native language must prevail over inept translations by outsiders to the Hebrew culture, especially when such fumbling produces gibberish.
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105 posted on 10/24/2016 2:17:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
And where can I find "the original words of the Cohen Matthew, in his native language"?

If not an Amazon.com link, could you at least give me the name of a publisher?

What does a gal have to do to get more information?

106 posted on 10/24/2016 2:23:03 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Shall I tell you? Grand Master of Jedi Order am I. Won this job in a raffle I did, think you? - Yoda)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

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You will not find a text on line, but here is Howard’s Shem Tov for sale at Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/HEBREW-GOSPEL-MATTHEW-George-Howard/dp/0865549893

There obviously are copyright issues that are presently preventing the posting of an English translation of any of the 28 presently located copies of the original Hebrew. (these 28 lines are essentially in agreement; there is one more with slight variations that has not been translated to English.)

Scholarly volumes are always carefully guarded, and legitimate postable texts do not presently exist, as far as I can determine.

Please note the difference in price between this soft cover, and the hard cover version. (extreme)


107 posted on 10/24/2016 4:46:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Thank you for this information.


108 posted on 10/24/2016 4:54:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Shall I tell you? Grand Master of Jedi Order am I. Won this job in a raffle I did, think you? - Yoda)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
FYI...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbinical_translations_of_Matthew#Christian_Hebrew_versions

"The Rabbinical translations of Matthew are rabbinical versions of the Gospel of Matthew that are written in Hebrew; Shem-Tob's Matthew, the Du Tillet Matthew, and the Münster Matthew, and which were used in polemical debate with Catholics."

"These versions are to be distinguished from the Gospel According to the Hebrews which was one or more works found in the Early Church, but surviving only as fragmentary quotations in Greek and Latin texts."

"Some scholars consider all the rabbinical versions to be translated from the Greek or Latin of the canonical Matthew, for the purpose of Jewish apologetics. This conclusion is not exclusive. Other scholars have provided linguistic and historic evidence of Shem Tov's Matthew coming from a much earlier Hebrew text that was later translated into Greek and other languages. Early Christian author Papias wrote around the year 100: Matthew composed his history in the Hebrew dialect, and everyone translated it as he was able."

Howard is mentioned several places in the wiki article.

George Howard, Associate Professor of Religion and Hebrew at the University of Georgia has argued (1995) that some or all of these three medieval Hebrew versions may have descended (without any intervening translation) from ancient Hebrew manuscripts of Matthew, which may have been used by early Christians in the 1st or 2nd century, but were nearly extinct by the time of Jerome, late in the 4th century.
See also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Howard_(Hebraist)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_the_Hebrews

109 posted on 10/25/2016 8:16:00 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: editor-surveyor

If it isn’t too much, what do you call your religion/belief system/True Way?


110 posted on 10/25/2016 8:19:52 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: Mr. M.J.B.

Thank you for this additional information.


111 posted on 10/26/2016 7:12:57 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Come into my cell. Make yourself at home." - Lancelot (Walker Percy))
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To: Mr. M.J.B.
I don't know anything about Hebrew apocryphal writings, nor their redactions of the Gospels, nor have I the time or interest to get deep into the controversies, which I wouldn't have the competence to judge anyhow (I don't read Hebrew or Greek.)

My (one-glance) impression is that such versions are interesting to specialists from a scholarly point of view (particularly the history of medieval Christian-Jewish polemics); but they should not be used by Christians for devotional or liturgical purposes, because they were not and are not used by the Church.

Is this, in your opinion, a fair impression?

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112 posted on 10/26/2016 7:35:07 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (If anyone is inclined to be argumentative, we do not have such a custom, nor do the churches of God.)
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To: Mr. M.J.B.

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Its not what I call it, but what Yeshua’s apostles and his first and second century sheep called it.

The Notzerim; followers of the teaching and life of the Notzer (the shoot from the root of Jessie)
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113 posted on 10/26/2016 7:39:34 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Oh yes, very fair. We’re on the same page here.


114 posted on 10/27/2016 5:48:54 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: Dallas59

Lost “Bullitt” Ford Mustang allegedly found in Mexico
By Gary Gastelu Published March 02, 2017

http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2017/03/02/lost-bullitt-ford-mustang-allegedly-found-in-mexico.html


115 posted on 03/03/2017 3:41:04 PM PST by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)
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