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Headphone companies: no headphone jack, no problem
The Verge ^ | September 9, 2016 | Vlad Savov

Posted on 09/09/2016 6:31:51 PM PDT by House Atreides

This week Apple launched a new iPhone without a headphone jack and stirred up an understandable furor of discontent. But you won’t hear any headphone companies complaining about the move, even though it takes away their familiar entry point into the Apple ecosystem. Most of them have already been preparing for this change for months ... I spoke with a few of the major headphone manufacturers ... to gauge their reaction to the news.

The universal response has been a mix of sunny optimism ... and practicality. Most companies ... recognize that there's plenty of opportunity in having ... Apple making noise around their industry and products.

Sennheiser is one of the best-known names in the personal audio world, and with good reason. This company’s range spans everything from the most affordable $20 in-ear and over-ear designs to the marble-encased $55,000 Orpheus system. Here’s what co-CEOs Daniel and Andreas Sennheiser had to say about the Lightning-only iPhone:

"Sennheiser has seen many different connection standards come and go in the audio world over the years. Audio connections have always been continuously evolving. Digital outputs, such as Apple's Lightning connector, will offer new opportunities to take a step forward and to further enhance the sound experience for the customer. For example, 3D audio technology using digital signals is just one possibility."

To Sennheiser, Apple’s hardware change is just another opportunity. Being pushed into developing Lightning headphones is a challenge that the German company is embracing, and it’s already thinking about ways to exploit that digital connector’s greater capabilities over the classic analog standard. That’s the thing I’d have liked to see Apple do — give people a reason to want Lightning headphones specifically — but ... it’s looking like the third-party accessory makers will solve the problem for Apple....

(Excerpt) Read more at theverge.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Music/Entertainment; Science
KEYWORDS: apple; headphones; iphone7
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To: roadcat
You probably don't even have a 6s.

I have two retired 4s phones that I use for making videos and recording music. My wife has a 5s and I have the 6s. I also have a couple of retired i-Pods but I never use them. I also have 3 different brands of Android tablets, a chrome book, a net book, and a laptop. About the only thing I don't have is an I-pad.

41 posted on 09/09/2016 10:03:56 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: TXnMA

Buy a brain moron


42 posted on 09/09/2016 10:15:22 PM PDT by arl295
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To: aquila48

“Does the included adapter let you charge and listen to music at the same time?”
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Not the included adapter. But if you’re one of those folks who charge their handset while simultaneously listening to music on wired headphones, Belkin has a product that will work (coming out October 10th):

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/09/08/belkin-announces-simultaneous-lightning-headphone-and-charging-adapter-for-iphone-7


43 posted on 09/09/2016 10:28:20 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: P-Marlowe
My wife has a 5s and I have the 6s.

Okay, my apologies as you indeed have a 6s. Others in my family have iPhones, although my wife and I do not. We have been using TracFones for years, they get the job done for us cheaply and anonymously. But we have iPads to fill the gap, mine has 3G. I have several old iPods. I have a number of accessories that fit the dual ports on top, half of it is a mini-jack. Among them is an FM radio, another is a mic with switch, mini-stereo speakers, etc. I felt bad when Apple dropped the dual-port feature on newer iPods, but progress is progress. I could no longer use those accessories with newer iPods or the iPad. However, the iPad had functions which made those older accessories on the iPods obsolete. I listen to radio stations from around the world on my iPad, far better than just pulling a few stations from off the air broadcasts. Stereo speakers built-in, same goes for mic. I rarely use the iPods any more. I like vintage gear, and have collected a lot. However, I enjoy the newer technology much more. We're looking at buying the iPhone 7 to replace our iPads. My wife has used hers since 2010 and is ready to move beyond that, same here, to better keep up with our family members.

44 posted on 09/09/2016 10:44:00 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: House Atreides; dayglored; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; 5thGenTexan; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; ...
Headphone companies: no headphone jack, no problem— "To Sennheiser, Apple’s hardware change is just another opportunity. Being pushed into developing Lightning headphones is a challenge that the German company is embracing, and it’s already thinking about ways to exploit that digital connector’s greater capabilities over the classic analog standard. That’s the thing I’d have liked to see Apple do — give people a reason to want Lightning headphones specifically — but ... it’s looking like the third-party accessory makers will solve the problem for Apple...." Just as I was saying! — PING!


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45 posted on 09/09/2016 10:48:42 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: P-Marlowe
I paid a lot of money for a few apps that use the headphone jack and will not work with any kind of blue tooth. Those apps would be useless with a 7 phone.

No, they won't. The iPhone 7 still has a 3.5mm jack that works from the Lightning port, and its a free, included adaptor. Your apps will work fine.

46 posted on 09/09/2016 10:51:23 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: aquila48
It’s the users that get the short end on the stick.

Only if they buy it and you are not going to do that are you?

47 posted on 09/09/2016 11:20:23 PM PDT by itsahoot (GOP says, Vote Trump. But if your principles won't let you, Hillary is OK.)
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To: roadcat

Yes, I know they are saying the adapter will come with the phone as well... just saying even if it didn’t its a few bucks to buy one... this entire thing is just nonsense

Everyone is spinning this a billion ways to sunday and its just stupid.

Again, look at an iPhone 6, the largest opening in the case is that 3.5 MM jack... and the part inside the case is actually slightly larger than the opening.. to get the iPhone any thinner the jack had to go.. anyono who didn’t see this coming, wasn’t paying attention.

This wasn’t some awsome move to shift the headphone industry or the music industry, it was simply.. We can’t make it any thinner unless we get rid of this jack... What are our options?

Well, we could do pure wireless/bluetooth, but that would mean having to ship some sort of bluetooth headsets with the phone... and that’s a pretty expensive option... and would probably eat into BEATS bottom line if we just gave away a good pair of bluetooth earbuds.... So, whats a cheaper option? Drive he audio through the lightning connector and modify our existing earbuds to connect there..... Okay, done.

That’s it... that’s all there was to this folks... Sure they would love you to spend $160 on their wireless earbuds, but that isn’t why they dropped the port... the port had to go, to make it thinner.. pure and simple.


48 posted on 09/09/2016 11:20:35 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: 9422WMR
Those crappy earbuds that come with iPhones never stay put. If they were not on a cord they would get lost.
Wireless? Fail, they will fall out.

Mine never fall out unless the wires snag on something. Frankly, I bet you don't own any Apple products.

49 posted on 09/09/2016 11:30:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It would seem easy to produce a Lightning adapter that you could plug any ordinary phones into. The phones that have a built in dedicated interface will find few uses.

Well, yeah, you'd think Apple woulda, coulda thought of that.


Oh, they did and are including it FREE with every iPhone 7. Whaddaya know?

50 posted on 09/09/2016 11:33:49 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: aquila48
No mini hadphone jack =

Coercing their Apple mind numbed robots into being forced to spend lots more money on Bluetooth wireless headphones, or an additional, (expensive, when it us lost, needs replacing, etc) PROPRIETARY Apple device that ALLOWS them to use their existing wired headphones, in order to listen to their music, etc...

"Apple, we're ULTIMATELY all about C O N T R O L."

Apple has literally become the antithesis of their original, ground breaking "1984 commercial" = APPLE IS the all-controlling "Big Brother" and their consumers are the Proles = mind-numbed, controlled masses in lock step with Apple's "Ministry of Truth", which controls and determines what news, entertainment, education and art Apple's Prole users are allowed, by benevolent Big Brother, to gain access to.

EVERYTHING in "1984 Apple-World" is specifically and ultimately designed FOR ABSOLUTE CONTROL over their 1984 Apple-World Prole users, and EVERYTHING IS PROPRIETARY so the Proles have to continually pay through the nose in order to continue to be a part of, and access "1984 Apple-World".

Bluetooth has been around for years now and readily available in numerous portable devices THAT ALSO HAVE MINI HEADPHONE JACKS. If Apple was truly "forward-thinking", and not all about control, their latest IPhone 7 would have followed suit by allowing for wireless Bluetooth headphone accessibility while also allowing for "backwards compatibility" with wired headphones by also continuing to provide a mini headphone jack. But NO, THAT WILL NEVER DO because Big Brother needs another way to further CONTROL AND SQUEEZE MORE MONEY out of their "1984 Apple-World" Proles while also providing Big Brother WITH A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL NEW, PERPETUAL, PROPRIETARY MONEY STREAMS:

1984 Apple-World Ministry of Truth's latest commercial Iphone 7 directive:

"Apple Proles, you want to continue to use your 'out-dated' wired headphones, because you foolishly believe their audio quality to be superior to Apple's Bluetooth headphones? Sure, Big Brother will permit you to do so, but when it breaks or is lost it's going to cost you extra: you have to buy our (expensive), proprietary Apple mini jack Iphone 7 attachment."

"Oh, you don't want to have to do that, then the best way for you to be 'cool' and access the Apple approved Itunes you have paid (through the nose) for is to by purchasing our 1984 Apple-World approved, proprietary Bluetooth headphones."

Is it any wonder why so many free, "OPEN SOURCE", users hate Apple-Corp; and why, finally some of the 1984 Apple-World Proles are waking up to reality and questioning, no longer listening to, or believing the propaganda lies they have been and are being fed to them by 1984 Apple-World's "Ministry of Truth" concerning the Iphone 7 (and other 1984 Apple-World products) and how "great" and "forward-thinking" it is NOT to include a wired mini jack on the IPhone 7?

Remembering Apple's first commercial: Some, brave, free, "open source" soul needs to bravely infiltrate 1984 Apple-World's domain, rush the guards and boldly throw a large silver sledge hammer right into the massive image of Apple-World's Big Brother's face; utterly destroying the screen and setting the 1984 Apple-World's mesmerized Proles free!

Where is "F Society" when you need them? "Paging Eliot & Mr. Robot; please answer your burner-phone ASAP."

52 posted on 09/10/2016 12:47:30 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: Swordmaker

LOL! You are pretty pathetic.


53 posted on 09/10/2016 12:53:44 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: LouieFisk
I don’t know that I’d ever use the term “ecosystem”...

"Ecosystem" sounds better to liberals than "iBorg".

54 posted on 09/10/2016 12:55:06 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: LouieFisk
I don’t know that I’d ever use the term “ecosystem”, much less care to be part of one.

You are, whether or not you want to be.

It's just a word.

55 posted on 09/10/2016 12:55:11 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Swordmaker
Yeah, 1984 Apple-World's PROPRIETARY mini jack adaptor is "free", until it breaks, gets lost, stolen, etc.... Then that nice little proprietary 1984 Apple-World mini jack adaptor is going to cost you a small fortune to replace = Another, aditional, never-ending money stream for Apple's "Big Brother".

1984 Apple-Word is ULTIMATELY all about: C O N T R O L over their Prole users.

56 posted on 09/10/2016 12:58:51 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Lord God Almighty, deliver us from this evil in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, amen.)
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To: roadcat

Actually I’m looking to getting an iPad for Christmas so that I can use it in lieu of paper for sheet music on my music stand and keyboard. My tablets and iphones are too small.

Looks like someone posted the headphone adapter on this thread, (when they first announced this phone it looked like the only link to the phone was bluetooth) so I suppose I might get a 7s or later version after my 6s dies a natural death. But I suspect the 7s will be obsolete long before I get there.


57 posted on 09/10/2016 1:00:57 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: plain talk
It gives them an opening to make people buy things they don’t need just to listen to music while Apple can save pennies on installing a lousy headphone jack.

It probably cost Apple more to ship the phone with the adapter cable than it would have cost to leave the headphone jack in the phone's design.

Apple has obviously decided that headphone jacks are clunky relics, and it's time to wean the customers off of them. Woz differs.

58 posted on 09/10/2016 1:05:57 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: roadcat
The adapter is included for free!

Actually, the adapter is included in the price of the phone. Nothing is free (but tell that to the people who think they are getting a free phone when they sign up for the contract).

What does it cost to buy a replacement adapter when you lose the "free" one?

59 posted on 09/10/2016 1:19:17 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: HamiltonJay

From what I’ve read, the iPhone 7 (no jack) is the same thickness (7.1 mm) as the iPhone 6S (with jack).


60 posted on 09/10/2016 1:22:31 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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