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By scrapping antiquated headphones, Apple is doing something extraordinary for music (link)
Quartz | September 9, 2016 | BY Amy X. Wang

Posted on 09/09/2016 4:43:54 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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By scrapping antiquated headphones, Apple is doing something extraordinary for music (Link Only )


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: applepinglist; audiojack; earphones; music
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To: Swordmaker
Classic Apple Meeses

I think it was Jinks who said I hate messes to pieces :-)

101 posted on 09/09/2016 8:53:54 PM PDT by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered. All it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage.)
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To: KavMan; The_Media_never_lie
Here you go:


Apple's iPhone 7 Lightning to 3.5mm Analog Jack Adaptor — and it's FREE with every iPhone 7 phone purchased!

102 posted on 09/09/2016 8:55:36 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: KavMan
Who cares! Some Company will make a headphone adapter for it then you can use your original headphones again

This one isn't free, but it lets the user charge the iPhone 7 while listening and also change volume, tracks, and answer the phone, etc., on headphones/buds that don't support that kind of activity. Oh, gee, that kind of shoots down all of those complainers, doesn't it.

103 posted on 09/09/2016 8:58:44 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker; Hodar; DoughtyOne
Yep. You are right. I have never owned or used a Galaxy phone, so I don't know anything about them, but I won't criticize it, till I have tried it.
Let me say it again. I own what I own, and don't give a rat's rear end what anyone thinks about it. Fair enough? :-)
104 posted on 09/09/2016 9:00:33 PM PDT by Mark17 (Calvary's love has never faltered. All it's wonder still remains. Souls still take eternal passage.)
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To: Da Coyote
Sorry, but well designed analog equipment will blow the doors off of digital stuff.

And I will agree with you. But no one is going to carry "well designed analog equipment that will blow the doors off of digital stuff" around with them in a phone, or while they are jogging, or riding the bus, or on a plane. It just ain't gonna happen. So you try to maximize the digital source and playback as best as you can.

If you can afford it, a tube driven amplifier system with a great analog music source is wonderful. But I can't quite figure out how to carry one around with me. The batteries are coming down in weight, but the tube heat is a bitch, but the real problem is the turntable. . . perhaps a 7 ¼" reel to reel tape would do the trick?

However, at 67, carrying around that weight on a backpack is getting beyond me. I'm gonna have to hire a Sherpa or three.

105 posted on 09/09/2016 9:07:43 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: higgmeister

Nope. Don’t go back quite 40 years, yet. Just go back ~30 years. Started with NASA out of college and found my way back there now. Just a geek at heart.


106 posted on 09/09/2016 9:11:33 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Swordmaker

One of them does. Only one.


107 posted on 09/09/2016 9:25:29 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Da Coyote
Oh, am also a not bad pianist that knows classical and rock. Been there, got the T shirt in both.

I've also been a pro musician. . . long ago in college. Later in life I was Bass section lead for the Stockton Chorale for around 10 years. We were the invited group to perform with the Manhattan Philharmonic Orchestra for the 100th Anniversary Concert of Carnegie Hall. Our founding conductor, Dr. Art Holton, was brought out of retirement to conduct both the Philharmonic and the the Chorale in Arthur Honegger's "King David". Sold Out New York crowd with the Governor or NY and the Vice President sitting two boxes away from my now ex-wife. We got four standing ovations! It was exciting.

When we got to New York and got off the busses from the Air Port in front of Carnegie Hall, Art Holton was stunned to see his photo hanging three stories tall off of Carnegie Hall! They gave him Toscanini's dressing room. Art had a huge talent but a bigger inferiority complex. He could have been a big frog in a big pond, and instead settled for being a big frog in a small pond as founder of the Stockton Chorale (which he directed for 50 years) and Stockton Symphony.

The Stockton Chorale was Carmen Dragon's favorite large choral group for which he arranged many of his more famous choral pieces including "God Bless America," and "Down By The Riverside". . . we performed many times with his Glendale Symphony.

So, somewhere, around here, I got the T-shirt too. . . but it's gotten a bit moth eaten over the years. I had to give up the Chorale. I've got a very bad back and after three seasons of rehearsing for the concerts and then finding I could not stand through the concert itself to sing, I finally resigned. I've been on the Board of Directors and an office of the board at various times, but I've pulled back completely an am now just a listener who sits in the audience and enjoys the sound of a truly large choral group.

We took 213 singers to Carnegie Hall for that anniversary concert in 1991 at the invitation of Carter Nice, the conductor of the Manhattan Philharmonic, who had heard the "King David" we had done as Art's retirement concert from the previous spring and wanted it for the Hall's 100th Anniversary Concert.

108 posted on 09/09/2016 9:29:41 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: roadcat
Okay, how long before every other smart phone maker does the same thing, and will you tell them it's a stupid decision?

You can already use wireless (Bluetooth) headphones with most other phones... or you can use the standard jacks.

109 posted on 09/09/2016 9:29:45 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Hodar
Or, imagine being in the woods on a cool summer morning. A bird chirps close by. Without looking, your brain automatically targets that birds position as behind you, over your left shoulder, approximately 20 feet away and about 10 feet off the ground. You slowly turn around and your eyes know exactly where to look. How did this happen? Timing, phase data of the sound waves, attenuation of sound in the air at the time, temperature and altitude you are familiar with. The brain and our ears are remarkable instruments.

I recall the first time I saw a THX movie in a theater that had been properly set up and actually had been tuned and certified by a team under the direction of my fourth cousin, George Lucas (He hasn't clue who I am. He's famous, I'm not). But it had ALL of the correct speakers on the walls, behind the screen, etc., and all perfectly balanced. This was in a theater in Hollywood. When the movie ran, "The Last Emperor," the experience was like that. When the opening credits were playing, you could hear every instrument in the orchestra and actually point to where it was playing.

The opening scene is of a gate into the Forbidden City and a cart entering. You can literally hear the cart coming from behind you, on your left, passing your left shoulder at exactly the right time it's next to you, then as it appears on the screen the sounds are exactly in the right place. Characters when they spoke had their voices come from the exact place on the screen where their mouths were locked, both left and right and vertically. It was phenomenal.

I spoke to the theater manager and was told that his theater had 64 channel THX sound. I was flabbergasted. I have NOT been in a THX theater so well set up since then. Most are mere approximations of THX surround sound. Some better than others, but the technicians have gotten very lazy since the movies have gone to multiplexes.

110 posted on 09/09/2016 9:47:51 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Cementjungle
You can already use wireless (Bluetooth) headphones with most other phones... or you can use the standard jacks.

You're not following... I'm referring to other smart phone makers dropping the standard jacks, as they will shortly do. Will you tell them it's a stupid decision? I thought not.

111 posted on 09/09/2016 9:56:59 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: steve86
What I can’t figure out is how the Airbuds figure out which is the right ear and which is the left, with no user input and placed in the ears randomly.

The sensor is on one side. Put it in wrong, it won't work. 50-50 chance of getting it right in the dark, if you can't discern the difference in shape by feel. If wrong, swap them and they'll instantly work because the sensor knows when it is in the correct ear.

112 posted on 09/09/2016 10:01:03 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: PrairieLady2
How does one have a conversation with the new apple 7 with the proposed wireless buds? Are they designed for phone calls? Do you have to remove your buds to answer your phone? How is the sound quality for the person on the other end of the line?

I can't answer personally, but knowing Apple, they've been tested out the kazoo. The buds have mikes on each side that work together and they have noise cancellation. They use a conical range going toward the user's mouth. I suspect they work well.

113 posted on 09/09/2016 10:02:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: higgmeister
It was the closed proprietary code versus the open code that did it for me all those many years ago. . .

Through 40 years in telecommunications I have installed digiboards, modem and other bus cards, added memory, changed processors, etc. on hundreds of PC's, but I have never cracked open one Apple product.

So, you don't seem to be aware that Apple's underlying OS is UNIX™, about as open as you can get, and you have never bothered to learn a thing about it since you made your determination "years ago" that Apple Sux, and you listen to your echo chamber of PC and Android friends who do exactly the same thing. Right. That gets you no where.

90% of Apple users know far more about both platforms and have made the conscious decision to use Apple products for good and educated reasons, not the ignorant ones you just spouted based on your limited exposure to just PCs and Android.

114 posted on 09/09/2016 10:08:42 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: roadcat
You're not following... I'm referring to other smart phone makers dropping the standard jacks, as they will shortly do. Will you tell them it's a stupid decision? I thought not.

Yes, I would indeed tell them it's a stupid move. I doubt they're that stupid though.

115 posted on 09/09/2016 10:11:52 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: HamiltonJay
Dropping the jack has nothing to do with old or new technology.. The simple face was as long as it had the 3.5MM plug they could not make the phone any thinner.

Look at the iPhone 6, what is the largest opening in the case? It’s that jack and the part inside is slightly larger than the opening.. So, to make the phone thinner the jack had to go.. Nothing more complicated than that.

Apple said nothing about making it thinner now. IT is sufficiently thin. There is nothing to be gained in going thinner than it is already. Any thinner and they'd have no room for the kind of cameras they want in it.

116 posted on 09/09/2016 10:12:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Hodar; higgmeister
When Win10 dropped and yanked the Start button - I bought my first Mac. It’s the bottom of the line, Mac Mini. I’m using it now. It’s an Intel i5 chip, and I can simultaneously run OSX, WinXP, Win7 Pro and Win10. Yup - I said SIMULTANEOUSLY. I only run2-3 at a time, as all of them bring it down dead slow - but it can do it. That’s the power of UNIX, which is the heart and soul of OSX.

GRIN! Try doing that on a Mac Pro with XEON processors. I've run NINE different OSes simultaneously with no noticeable slowdown. Ten counting UNIX™.

117 posted on 09/09/2016 10:15:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: FourtySeven
I don’t understand excuse my ignorance please: isn’t Bluetooth “Bluetooth”? Won’t any third-party Bluetooth headset work with the new iPhone?

Yes, you can use any bog standard Bluetooth headphone set with the iPhone 7. However, you will not get the advantage of the W1 chipset and the direct to sound ability of that chip's capability to process the sound, nor will you get instant syncing with multiple devices, nor can you get the broader bandwidth of the music. Sorry, Bluetooth's limited in the kind and quality of the music it can handle but Apple's new approach is not.

Apple will be licensing their technology, though, so others can make headsets for it.

118 posted on 09/09/2016 10:20:53 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: higgmeister
If you are a design engineer that worked for Intel and AMD, I suspect you don't go back 40 years.

Since Intel was founded on July 18, 1968, in Mountain View, CA, 48 years ago, I suspect he can go back 40 years. I go back that far and I didn't work for Intel. . . but I worked on Intel products. :^)

119 posted on 09/09/2016 10:24:41 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: WeatherGuy
Learn it?? I guess I have a different understanding of intuitive than you do. Any gadgetry/software that you have to "learn" - outside of being given a paycheck to do so - is a waste of time.

iTunes is a complex piece of Software. Some of it is intuitive, at least on a Mac. The rest requires taking time to learn it.

120 posted on 09/09/2016 10:26:13 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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