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ILLEGAL ALIEN crime. I wanted the federal data but there is no one definitive source.
Private study and Department of Homeland Security data | Sept. 3, 2016

Posted on 09/03/2016 2:30:59 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael

The federal government does not readily keep statistics about crimes committed by illegal aliens.


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ILLEGAL ALIEN crime.

I wanted to use federal data and include ILLEGAL alien crime but as a very informative study (Effects of Illegal Immigration Upon Crime In the United States) pointed out

"[T]he United States government does not readily keep statistics with regard to crimes committed by illegal immigrants. . . there exists a legal obligation [on federal agencies] . . . to report accurately [; e.g.,] the Office of Immigration Statistics, the Bureau of Justice Statistics, and the Government Accountability Office . . . the agencies [provide] raw statistical data with regard to incarcerations, criminal removals (deportations) and arrest information involving illegal immigrants [but as for data on] nationwide criminal prosecutions and convictions of illegal immigrants . . . no such information is kept and reported by the government . . . [in fact illegal alien crimes regularly result in] the criminal removal process rather than prosecuted with the intent to incarcerate them.

However the study did find that information about removal in lieu of prosecution and incarceration of illegal aliens can be seen in the

These provide raw statistical data because the statistics are broken down between criminal removals and non-criminal removals.

Example: 2014 Yearbook of Immigration Statistics, see Table 41. ALIENS REMOVED BY CRIMINAL STATUS AND REGION AND COUNTRY OF NATIONALITY: FISCAL YEARS 2005 TO 2014

The data for 2003 and 2004 are from the 2012 pdf file

Total Criminal Non-
Criminal
2003 211,098 83,731 127,367
2004 240,665 92,380 148,285
2005 246,431 92,221 154,210
2006 280,974 98,490 182,484
2007 319,382 102,394 216,988
2008 359,795 105,266 254,529
2009 391,438 131,837 259,601
2010 381,962 169,656 212,306
2011 386,423 188,964 197,459
2012 417,268 200,143 217,125
2013 435,498 198,981 236,517
2014 414,481 167,740 246,741

These numbers are in addition to the state and local incarcerations covered by the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program (SCAAP) that reimburses state and local governments for the costs of incarcerating unauthorized immigrants. Then of course there are others not counted by SCAAP or criminal removals. Not all incarcerated ILLEGAL aliens are covered by SCAAP. There is no clear picture.

Around page 29 the study suggests that the rate of criminality of the illegal immigrant population is over six and four tenths percent (6.4%) or as high as seven and eighty-nine hundredths percent (7.89%).

The study even states "counting the number of crimes attributable to illegal immigrants [vis-a-vis] the total number of [one of DoJ's crime reporting systems] UCR crimes in the U.S. . . . illegal aliens were responsible for the equivalent of a low of 13.178% to a high of 14.327% of the total crimes." see Page 37.

Personally I suspect that the disorderliness benefits open-border advocates and is here to stay. One thing for sure it's beyond my comprehension.

1 posted on 09/03/2016 2:30:59 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Fed Gov does not want us knowing that information. Period.


2 posted on 09/03/2016 2:36:05 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The fast food place where I have breakfast has Fox News on the TV, and I’ve noticed the last few days they’re parroting that there are 11 million illegals in the country.

IIRC it was 12 million for a number of years. I wonder why the Ministry of Information has gone to 11.


3 posted on 09/03/2016 2:40:02 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Might be something in here:
http://www.ussc.gov/


4 posted on 09/03/2016 2:49:32 PM PDT by libertarian27 (FR Cookbooks - On Profile Page)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“Fed Gov does not want us knowing that information. Period.”

Local govs city/county and state don’t keep that data.

Local newspapers that used to publish DUI’s and crime, never publish that data. They show a street address or just a city address.

A friend with a personal loss due to a drunk illegal went after two counties re their DUI monthly arrest reports not showing the arrested ones were illegal.

The newspapers stopped posting the monthly data.


5 posted on 09/03/2016 2:54:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ((My passion for freedom is stronger than that of the Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.))
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The government hides everything that does not fit the narrative that keeps them in power.

One of the greatest things that could ever happen to this country is if a law was passed that stipulated that the government had exactly 3 months to reclassify exactly just 1/4 of all currently classified documents and that the remainder would be dumped onto online archives for any to see.


6 posted on 09/03/2016 2:55:10 PM PDT by WMarshal (Trump 2016)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I've seen official FBI stats on murder which break down victims and perps by race and gender.
7 posted on 09/03/2016 3:04:37 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (In Today's America Feelings Are The New Truth)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

http://www.theremembranceproject.org/

Check this sight out. Might be worth a note to the Director to see if they have found the data sources you’re looking for.


8 posted on 09/03/2016 3:12:35 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Democrats are the Liquidate America Party)
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To: Grampa Dave

They don’t want anybody to know. If they don’t ask or keep records, they never have to admit the problem. They are evil.


9 posted on 09/03/2016 3:16:30 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
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To: WMarshal

I used to make stuff under defense contract for the US military. Every design spec and everything else that was associated with the project was highly classified and we had the security measures in place as instructed. Thing was we made exactly the same thing that was sold on the open market using the same production lines. Military paid 300% more than our distributors.


10 posted on 09/03/2016 3:23:37 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Poo poo the polls at Trump's peril.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Bingo.

Like an evil drug making company, pigeonholing serious complaints/side effects about a product.


11 posted on 09/03/2016 3:25:35 PM PDT by Grampa Dave ((My passion , freedom is stronger than that of the Democrats whose obsession is to enslave me.))
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To: Gay State Conservative
Yes I actually posted the data about a year ago along with other stats including DoJ's longstanding National Crime Victims Survey that used to include interracial crime stats. here

Here's the NCVS data I recently reposted. here. It sure looks to me like 80-plus % of the time white-black interracial violence is black on white.

None of these posts would be necessary if the Administration and the employees of the MSM would just be honest. Crime is not almost exclusively white on black.

12 posted on 09/03/2016 3:27:26 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Ann Coulter is a pretty good source, she digs out the stats. Here's another source: Illegal Aliens account for over 30% of murders in some States
13 posted on 09/03/2016 3:34:04 PM PDT by 11th_VA (It's all gonna change once Trump's president)
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To: Eddie01; libertarian27

Thanks for the links I’ll see if they have interest in the stats and if they have sources that could help.


14 posted on 09/03/2016 3:36:01 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: MUDDOG

I wonder why the Ministry of Information has gone to 11.

They are talking about 11 Million Just in California


15 posted on 09/03/2016 3:40:07 PM PDT by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: eyeamok

LOL! Sounds about right.


16 posted on 09/03/2016 3:41:21 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The numbers are there and I’m sure they are staggering and frightening. But never released to the public.

Good job with your research. Thanks.


17 posted on 09/03/2016 3:44:58 PM PDT by upchuck (2 Timothy 3:13: But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Ann Coulter wrote about this two books ago. She described how difficult it was to get the data for that book.

I recommend the audiobook version. It has outtakes.


18 posted on 09/03/2016 3:45:18 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: 11th_VA
Thanks for the link. As the article says "It takes some prodigious digging to find the data, but it is there."

The point as I see it and the study IMO proves is that it ain't there. I wonder why.

The data are there for most everything else.. at least until Obama became president and DoJ became Department of Just Us. It seems that the long standing DoJ NCVS interracial crime Table 42 and other stats have gone missing.

The FBI I believe still has interracial homicide data showing black on white homicides are more than double white on black.

19 posted on 09/03/2016 3:49:37 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: RandallFlagg

Thanks. I remember her comments about trying to get the data. The study I linked provides means but the question remains.. why the obstacles? By design?


20 posted on 09/03/2016 3:53:56 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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