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ILLEGAL ALIEN crime.

I wanted to use federal data and include ILLEGAL alien crime but as a very informative study (Effects of Illegal Immigration Upon Crime In the United States) pointed out

"[T]he United States government does not readily keep statistics with regard to crimes committed by illegal immigrants. . . there exists a legal obligation [on federal agencies] . . . to report accurately [; e.g.,] the Office of Immigration Statistics, the Bureau of Justice Statistics, and the Government Accountability Office . . . the agencies [provide] raw statistical data with regard to incarcerations, criminal removals (deportations) and arrest information involving illegal immigrants [but as for data on] nationwide criminal prosecutions and convictions of illegal immigrants . . . no such information is kept and reported by the government . . . [in fact illegal alien crimes regularly result in] the criminal removal process rather than prosecuted with the intent to incarcerate them.

However the study did find that information about removal in lieu of prosecution and incarceration of illegal aliens can be seen in the

These provide raw statistical data because the statistics are broken down between criminal removals and non-criminal removals.

Example: 2014 Yearbook of Immigration Statistics, see Table 41. ALIENS REMOVED BY CRIMINAL STATUS AND REGION AND COUNTRY OF NATIONALITY: FISCAL YEARS 2005 TO 2014

The data for 2003 and 2004 are from the 2012 pdf file

Total Criminal Non-
Criminal
2003 211,098 83,731 127,367
2004 240,665 92,380 148,285
2005 246,431 92,221 154,210
2006 280,974 98,490 182,484
2007 319,382 102,394 216,988
2008 359,795 105,266 254,529
2009 391,438 131,837 259,601
2010 381,962 169,656 212,306
2011 386,423 188,964 197,459
2012 417,268 200,143 217,125
2013 435,498 198,981 236,517
2014 414,481 167,740 246,741

These numbers are in addition to the state and local incarcerations covered by the State Criminal Alien Assistance Program (SCAAP) that reimburses state and local governments for the costs of incarcerating unauthorized immigrants. Then of course there are others not counted by SCAAP or criminal removals. Not all incarcerated ILLEGAL aliens are covered by SCAAP. There is no clear picture.

Around page 29 the study suggests that the rate of criminality of the illegal immigrant population is over six and four tenths percent (6.4%) or as high as seven and eighty-nine hundredths percent (7.89%).

The study even states "counting the number of crimes attributable to illegal immigrants [vis-a-vis] the total number of [one of DoJ's crime reporting systems] UCR crimes in the U.S. . . . illegal aliens were responsible for the equivalent of a low of 13.178% to a high of 14.327% of the total crimes." see Page 37.

Personally I suspect that the disorderliness benefits open-border advocates and is here to stay. One thing for sure it's beyond my comprehension.

1 posted on 09/03/2016 2:30:59 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Fed Gov does not want us knowing that information. Period.


2 posted on 09/03/2016 2:36:05 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (The Confederate Flag is the new "N" word.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The fast food place where I have breakfast has Fox News on the TV, and I’ve noticed the last few days they’re parroting that there are 11 million illegals in the country.

IIRC it was 12 million for a number of years. I wonder why the Ministry of Information has gone to 11.


3 posted on 09/03/2016 2:40:02 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Might be something in here:
http://www.ussc.gov/


4 posted on 09/03/2016 2:49:32 PM PDT by libertarian27 (FR Cookbooks - On Profile Page)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The government hides everything that does not fit the narrative that keeps them in power.

One of the greatest things that could ever happen to this country is if a law was passed that stipulated that the government had exactly 3 months to reclassify exactly just 1/4 of all currently classified documents and that the remainder would be dumped onto online archives for any to see.


6 posted on 09/03/2016 2:55:10 PM PDT by WMarshal (Trump 2016)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I've seen official FBI stats on murder which break down victims and perps by race and gender.
7 posted on 09/03/2016 3:04:37 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (In Today's America Feelings Are The New Truth)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

http://www.theremembranceproject.org/

Check this sight out. Might be worth a note to the Director to see if they have found the data sources you’re looking for.


8 posted on 09/03/2016 3:12:35 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Democrats are the Liquidate America Party)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Ann Coulter is a pretty good source, she digs out the stats. Here's another source: Illegal Aliens account for over 30% of murders in some States
13 posted on 09/03/2016 3:34:04 PM PDT by 11th_VA (It's all gonna change once Trump's president)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The numbers are there and I’m sure they are staggering and frightening. But never released to the public.

Good job with your research. Thanks.


17 posted on 09/03/2016 3:44:58 PM PDT by upchuck (2 Timothy 3:13: But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Ann Coulter wrote about this two books ago. She described how difficult it was to get the data for that book.

I recommend the audiobook version. It has outtakes.


18 posted on 09/03/2016 3:45:18 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Google is your friend. Type in any town, county, state most wanted and you’ll get your stats.

http://www.lapdonline.org/most_wanted


21 posted on 09/03/2016 4:07:35 PM PDT by sheana
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The information is indeed difficult to find. I believe it is deliberately not being collected by the Federal government.

Here is an article I wrote about homicides in Texas that supports the notion of high levels of illegal immigrant homicides:

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2015/07/texas-murders-by-illegal-aliens.html

The article has a good snapshot of the 10 most wanted criminals in Texas. 9 of the 10 have Hispanic surnames. All are labeled as “white”.


23 posted on 09/03/2016 4:26:52 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

`Adios America—The Left’s Plan To Turn Our Country Into A Third World Hellhole’ by Ann Coulter, Regnery Publishing, 2015,p.99;
Chapt. 7 “Immigrants and Crime “You will spend more time trying to obtain basic crime statistics about immigrants in America than trying to sign up for Obamacare. The facts aren’t there. Those of us who want to know if a murderer is an immigrant are treated as if we’re trying to keep blacks out of the country club. What difference does it make?”
Ann is a first-rate researcher, a lot of it on the legal resource Lexus.
I believe she uses the term “immigrant” ironically and she’s had the same experience you had: statistics go down the old memory hole! then, `Why do you wanna know? Don’t you know these are hard-working, family oriented undocumented Americans?’
All except, of course, the many violent, recidivist criminals who boomerang back-and-forth between here and their homes down south.

Obama & Co. are still trying to get the Library of Congress to do a Winston Smith on records, changing the terms mentioned in US Code Title 8: “illegal” and “alien” to “undocumented” and “immigrant”.

“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.”
George Orwell, 1984


24 posted on 09/03/2016 4:30:54 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I thnk FAIRUS is a good site: www.fairus.org/site/docserver/crimestudy.pdf


25 posted on 09/03/2016 5:09:28 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Ann Coulter discusses this non-tracking of illegal alien crime in her excellent book, ¡Adios, America!
31 posted on 09/03/2016 6:58:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There's only one issue in the immigration debate; the well-being of the American people."--Trump)
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Thanks to all!

My point was however that there are no federal government stats as there are for other offenders.

I wonder why. I am not so much interested in the figures.. I can see the various estimates including the ones in the referenced study.

They prove that the federal government certainly should be paying attention -- along with "amnesty" -- local and state governments pay attention but they cannot nake the decision on amnesty. As usual the problem is in Washington.

Thanks again.

32 posted on 09/03/2016 6:58:32 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Criminal Alien Statistics: Information on Incarcerations, Arrests, and Costs GAO-11-187: Published: Mar 24, 2011. Publicly Released: Apr 21, 2011.

Pete Sessions and Steve King requested that GAO update the 71 page report above, which is still the best info available. Trump referred to it in his immigration speech including mentioning the 25,000 criminal aliens charged with homicide.

33 posted on 09/03/2016 9:53:06 PM PDT by kabar
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

the data does exist; approximately 30 US citizens are killed every day; murders, DUI, etc,


34 posted on 09/04/2016 5:34:20 AM PDT by maddogtiger
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