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After Bitcoin, Chinese Go Crazy About Silver
Epoch Times ^ | July 5, 2016 | Valentin Schmid

Posted on 07/09/2016 6:25:39 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

After Bitcoin, Chinese Go Crazy About Silver

By Valentin Schmid, Epoch Times

July 5, 2016 AT 3:30 PM

Last Updated: July 7, 2016 12:06 pm

Chinese speculators have the reputation of buying anything and everything that is going up.

Real estate, the stock market, copper, bitcoin, and now silver. Futures in Shanghai reached their upside limit when prices hit $21.13 per ounce, up 6.9 percent on the day. Chinese are behind the bulk of the buying as volumes on the Shanghai futures exchange exploded to 95 billion yuan ($14.2 billion) last Friday.

The price has since retreated to a tad below 20, but the overall performance over the second quarter is best in class, up 17 percent.

At least considering traditional asset classes. Bitcoin, the preferred Chinese capital outflow vehicle is up 66 percent in Chinese yuan over the same time period. After peaking on June 16, it has leveled off a bit, a good chance for Chinese traders to focus on silver again. Like Bitcoin, silver is not part of the Chinese banking system and provides insurance for a possible debt restructuring.

Throughout history, the Chinese have been alternating between currency systems based on silver and currency systems based on paper money. Genghis Khan was the first emperor to force his citizens to use paper money, Chiang Kai-shek’s Nationalist Party was the last one to switch silver for paper in 1935.

"The fact that the traded volume goes up while the open interest goes down is a clear indication that day traders have taken over for now."— Ole Hansen, Saxo Bank

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1 posted on 07/09/2016 6:25:40 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

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2 posted on 07/09/2016 6:26:45 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Mama Like! Buy all you want, China! In fact, buy MORE than you can afford!

I’ll just sit here and smile and watch my assets grow. ;)


3 posted on 07/09/2016 6:27:44 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So the fork I ate dinner with is worth $35, eh?


4 posted on 07/09/2016 6:30:29 PM PDT by proxy_user
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So the fork I ate dinner with is worth $35,

If it was Tiffany or Christofle it's worth a lot more than that.

5 posted on 07/09/2016 6:33:34 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Throughout history, the Chinese have been alternating between currency systems based on silver and currency systems based on paper money.

Throughout history the Chinese have shown they prefer currency systems based on precious metals and detest fiat currency systems based on paper money.

6 posted on 07/09/2016 6:37:15 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That’s fine with me.

The prices (in US Dollars) of both gold and silver have been artificially depressed by the manipulators for quite some time I’m told.

But it won’t last forever.


7 posted on 07/09/2016 6:37:41 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Still plenty of paper silver at JP Morgan.


8 posted on 07/09/2016 6:45:59 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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International Silver, ‘Prelude’ Pattern:

45 Piece Dinner Size Starter Set: $2,499.00

You’ve got a whole new RESPECT for Great-Grandma’s silver service these days, don’t you? ;)

http://www.replacements.com


9 posted on 07/09/2016 6:47:21 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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>>If it was Tiffany or Christofle it’s worth a lot more than that.<<

I have always been under the impression that after sale, things made of rare metals are only worth their value on the scale.


10 posted on 07/09/2016 6:47:43 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't mistake my silence for ignorance, my calmness for acceptance, or my kindness for weakness)
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The *second* great wad of silver I accumulated 2003-2007 was in scrap sterling silver forks and spoons. I sold over 100 lbs of sterling flatware to a refiner at about $38.50 last time silver ran up. I missed $50 pretty badly but I’m sure glad I didn’t allow my horde to drop down to $15. Back then it was often possible to buy .925 for under the implied Ag spot price. But it’s a crappy way to buy silver, IMO.


11 posted on 07/09/2016 6:47:46 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I apologize for not apologizing.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Would you ever sell your silver unless you had to? Even if it goes up to $100 per ounce I don’t think I would raid my safety deposit box and sell it.


12 posted on 07/09/2016 6:48:52 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: ladyjane

Reed and Barton :-). I found one (fork) metal detecting. Replacement on it is $250+. It’s a cool design though!


13 posted on 07/09/2016 6:51:16 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Sawdring

I’d sell the gold, first. The junk silver proves useful in many more ways. ;)


14 posted on 07/09/2016 6:53:25 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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So the fork I ate dinner with is worth $35, eh?

You eat with two ounce forks. You must have a hell of a wrist shot, eh?

15 posted on 07/09/2016 6:54:09 PM PDT by Stentor (Free the Rosenbergs--Oh wait. Nevermind.)
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To: freedumb2003
I have always been under the impression that after sale, things made of rare metals are only worth their value on the scale.

That depends. That's what some silver-buy back folks would want you to believe. But it may not be true.

If you are selling your flatware to places like Replacements - maybe. But it depends. As a start, check out eBay. Some pieces, e.g., forks, go as high as $100 or more. Place spoons also. I've seen pea spoons go for $700.

16 posted on 07/09/2016 7:22:07 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Paulie

Silver US dollars seem to be a good bet.


17 posted on 07/09/2016 7:26:13 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Interesting you say that.

Not long ago someone, and I can’t remember who, pointed out to me that with a gallon of gasoline at $2.50, a silver dollar (at melt value) will buy roughly 8 gallons. A paper dollar won’t even buy a half a gallon!


18 posted on 07/09/2016 7:43:54 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Silver US dollars seem to be a good bet.

Yes, because of the "backed by the government" factor.

But where most starting investors make a mistake is in the graded stuff.

And a MS-60-70 Proof Liberty in fancy boxes with "Certificates of Authenticity" still contains only one ounce of .999 silver, just like the BU's fresh off the US Mint press, but at more than twice the price.

Presenting graded silver dollars for food, if the SHTF, will not get you any more food than presenting a circulated one.

Or ammunition or a gun or a gallon of gas, etc.

The "Certificate of Authenticity" is not even good for toilet paper...it's too rough...much like the pages of the koran.

Don't ask me how I know that.

19 posted on 07/09/2016 7:44:32 PM PDT by OldSmaj (Voting for Hillary because she is a woman is like eating a turd because it looks like a Baby Ruth.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I just want to add that the person who told me this was here on FR.


20 posted on 07/09/2016 7:46:04 PM PDT by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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