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FBI goes back to 9mm with Glock
guns.com ^ | June 30, 2016 | Daniel Terrill

Posted on 06/30/2016 3:44:49 PM PDT by PROCON


The Federal Bureau of Investigation awarded Glock an $85 million contract to produce 9mm handguns for the better part of a decade, according to the notice published Wednesday.

The contract marks a milestone in the history of FBI weapons as the agency famously ditched 9mm in the mid-1980s for a larger .40-caliber handgun. The return comes after 30 years of ballistic improvements to 9mm ammunition.

The contract covers five items that include a compact pistol, a full-size pistol, an inert training pistol, a Simunition training pistol, and replacement parts, according to the solicitation.

Specifications in the solicitation suggest Glock will be supplying the FBI with a Glock 19 compact and a Glock 17 for the full-size pistol.

Initial requests included a compact pistol with a barrel length between 3.75-4.25 inches, a minimum 14-round capacity, and night sights. And the full-size with a barrel 4.26-5.2 inches, minimum mag capacity of 16 rounds and night sights.

The FBI estimates spending between $20 million to $85 million in the next 10 years under the contact.

While the price may seem excessive, the contract may also equip 10 federal law enforcement agencies — ATF, DEA, U.S. Marshals, etc — and the Office of Inspector General for all federal agencies.

The caliber change comes 30 years after the agency’s high-profile response (dramatic among handgun aficionados) to a shootout that ended with the deaths of two agents who were essentially outgunned. The agency formally switched from revolvers to semi-auto pistols.

According to the American Rifleman, initially, the change was to a Smith & Wesson Model 1076 chambered in 10mm, which is on par with .40 caliber. But the results were poor and the agency replaced it with Sig 226 as a temporary fix. In 1997, the FBI officially adopted Glock .40 S&W pistols as the service pistol for agents.


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KEYWORDS: 9mm; banglist; fbi; glock
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I carry my G-19 always.

Not a finer handgun made, IMHO.

OK you Glock-o-phobes, have at it!

1 posted on 06/30/2016 3:44:49 PM PDT by PROCON
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To: PROCON

Love both the Glock 17 and 19 as they are awesome guns, easy to care for, durable and very accurate. However with today’s threats the FBI agents will be badly outgunned with 9-mm Lugar. I go with the Glock 31 (.357 Sig) or 20 (10-mm Auto) myself.


2 posted on 06/30/2016 3:48:53 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: PROCON

RE G19:
I agree. It’s my go-to companion, always.
It is the AK47 of the handgun world - it ALWAYS works.


3 posted on 06/30/2016 3:49:47 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: PROCON

I carry a variety of handguns.S&W model 19,HK USP,a vintage 1911A1,among others.
I keep coming back to the model 19 because of the round it chambers.


4 posted on 06/30/2016 3:50:02 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Never be more than two steps away from your weapon.)
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To: PROCON

No finer handgun molded, perhaps.


5 posted on 06/30/2016 3:50:14 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: gundog

I’ve got both a Gen 4 G19 and an older original G19.

The Gen 4 is a little more ergo with the grip, but the older girl is still my baby.

Also have a G17 and a G21 (.45 ACP) as well.

They work, always.


6 posted on 06/30/2016 3:52:24 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: PROCON

I don’t hate the G19, I have one. But if I were up against jihadists or drugged up crazies I would rather have a 10mm. Maybe the new transgender recruits can’t handle anything with more recoil than the 9mm.


7 posted on 06/30/2016 3:53:36 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: PROCON

How come they get hi-cap mags? Not everybody can legally own them.


8 posted on 06/30/2016 3:55:07 PM PDT by umgud (ban muslims, not guns)
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To: NFHale
They work, always.

I hear the same said of HiPoints.

9 posted on 06/30/2016 3:56:57 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: PROCON

USMC MARSOC went to GLOCK 19 about one year ago.


10 posted on 06/30/2016 3:57:34 PM PDT by donozark (FAT PEOPLE ARE HARD TO KIDNAP!)
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To: PROCON; All

I recently purchased my first Glock, a 43, and will be buying a 19 not too long from now.

For those who question the durability of Glocks, a must see video is Iraqveteran8888’s torture test of the Glock on Youtube. I was a holdout on Glocks.......until I saw this video. Amazing guns.

My top three in no particular order are: Glock, Sig Sauer and FN.


11 posted on 06/30/2016 3:57:48 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: PROCON

Some of you are just not professional enough to carry a Glock-40. /sarc


12 posted on 06/30/2016 3:57:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: gundog

That is indeed true.
Cheap, effective firepower for the working man.


13 posted on 06/30/2016 3:58:10 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: PROCON

To cater to diversity, are the new firearms also going to have sights mounted on the side so they can be fired ‘ghetto’?


14 posted on 06/30/2016 3:58:55 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: DarthVader

The modern ballistics make differences between the 9mm and 10mm moot at best.


15 posted on 06/30/2016 3:59:34 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: MtnClimber
But if I were up against jihadists or drugged up crazies I would rather have a 10mm.

What, you don't have a concealed AR-15 holster like I do? :-)

16 posted on 06/30/2016 3:59:49 PM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: umgud

Because they’re the PO-lice.


17 posted on 06/30/2016 4:01:06 PM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: smokingfrog
Some of you are just not professional enough to carry a Glock-40.

You are probably the only one in this room professional enough to carry a Glock-40!

(Is that Youtube vid still out there?)

18 posted on 06/30/2016 4:01:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: NFHale

I have a smaller hand so the Gen4 G-19 is perfect for me.


19 posted on 06/30/2016 4:02:04 PM PDT by PROCON (Americans First or Terrorists First - Choose in November)
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To: gundog

And here’s a sweet little “BUG” to fit in the small of your back... and keep your logistics trail short...

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/gun-reviews/taurus-905-review-9mm-revolver/


20 posted on 06/30/2016 4:02:38 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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