Posted on 06/29/2016 7:04:29 AM PDT by Enterprise
The opening scenes of the show depict Cerci getting ready for her trial before the seven septons. Now we knew that she would never stand trial didn't we? Well, we weren't disappointed. (I wasn't at least)
Loras confessed to everything. The deal was that he would be released after Cersi's trial, but Margaery didn't know that he would have the star carved into his forehead.
Meanwhile, Pycelle gets lured off and meets his end at the hand of the children while Qyburn looks on. Pycelle was a go along get along guy. He should have kept his mouth shut, but he stepped in it by criticizing Gregor Clegane, and by his inability to suppress his dislike of Cersi. Bye bye.
Because Cersi and Tommen weren't in attendance, and the High Sparrow sent Lancel Lannister to fetch them. Lancel saw a suspicious child and followed him. While this is happening, Clegane is forcibly preventing Tommen from leaving for the trial. Margaery understands that something is wrong, deadly wrong, because Cersi and Tommen aren't there. She tries to get the High Sparrow to evacuate the Sept, but the old jerk is so full of his own righteousness and religious authority that he can't conceive of the scope of treachery that Cersi is capable of. Lancel follows the child undergroud and gets stabbed. He sees the light of candles and crawls towards them. To his horror, the candles are burning down and are about to touch off barrels upon barrels of wildfire, stored conveniently below the Sept of Baelor, where the trial is being held. Too late though, as the fire ignites, disintegrating him, and blowing up the whole Sept. AWESOME! (Lancel's religious journey toward the light ended in a very BRIGHT flash!)
Poor naive Tommen commits suicide. In this I was sympathetic. He loved Margaery. He was a young boy who fell in love with a beautiful girl. And he knew that she was suddenly gone forever. The grief he felt was overpowering.
I liked Margaery, and I know she wasn't perfect either as she did her share of scheming and plotting. Too bad she couldn't get out of the Sept. Her dad was an affable old duff, but not too smart. Loras - who cares. The High Sept - ADIOS MOFO! I thought of him as a disgusting, icky old creep, something like Pycelle.
One reviewer I read noted that later, when Cersi takes the throne, that there were a LOT of new faces since the former elites went up with the Sept.
Littlefinger tried to baffle Sansa by declaring he wants to sit on the Iron Throne with her by his side, but by now she has wised up considerably, and she shut him down. Stupidly, he steps in it again by telling her that the North would back her, but not Jon. At the meeting, the North backs Jon, with the help of a rousing speech by little Lady Mormont, and Littlefinger looks like the loser he is. Sansa gives him a death stare. Littlefinger, the definition of slime and ooze.
So we have Walder Frey all happy and blustery at getting Riverrun back. He's happy with his alliance with the Lannisters, and boasts that when they put their swords through the hearts of their enemies, "The Freys and Lannisters send their regards."
Jaime pours a little cold water on Frey's happiness by reminding him that he couldn't hold Riverrun, and that if the Lannisters have to keep bailing him out, then who needs him?
And Arya. Love her. She serves Walder Frey a meat pie which contains he two sons. As he begins to grasp the horror, she unmasks herself and tells him who she is, and that the last thing he will see is a Stark smiling down on him as he dies. Frey is speechless. Literally, because Arya cut his throat the way her mother's throat was cut.
And speaking of last things someone sees, Cersi had promised Septa Unella that the last thing she would see before she dies is her face. Unella is under the impression that she is going to meet her god. Cersi explains her that it won't be today, or tomorrow, and introduces her to Gregor Clegane. Cersi mocks Unella with "confess," and "shame." As she leaves Unella is screaming, and we have to use our imaginations as to what exactly Clegane is doing.
Davos outs the witch's past atrocity of burning the daughter of Stannis alive. Jon banishes her and promises to hang her if she returns, and Davos tells her he will kill her himself if she returns.
Varys appears to help forge an alliance between Olenna Tyrell and Ellaria Sand. It was fun watching Olenna smack down the Sand girls. She told one that she looked like an angry little boy, she told one to shut up, and told the third not to speak.
Daenerys basically told Daario adios. Tyrion tells Daenerys he believes in her and said he would pledge his sword, but he doesn't have one. But he pledges his counsel, now and always. She appoints Tyrion as "Hand of the Queen." He kneels. I give Daenerys credit for understanding his value.
At the end, the fleet of Daenerys is sailing with its troops and horses. Yara and Theon are sailing with Daenerys after having pledged their support with the understanding that Daenerys will support them in defeating their treacherous uncle Euron. As the fleet sails, the dragons fly combat air patrol overhead. Must wait until next year now.
And see what? The confusion on his face as he tries to process what Margery is suggesting about the monstrous thing Cersi is about to do?
Remember the barbarous way the High Sparrow allowed Cerci, Margaery, and Loras to be treated while they were in captivity. His outward appearance of gentleness was, IMO, betrayed by his treatment of prisoners. He was deseving of contempt from those who saw through his phony humbler than thou act.
Like the White Walkers I have been waiting so long I have become bored and am contemplating just invading Canada.
I’d argue that point highly.
I see no difference in the Sparrow and the worst of them, other than he doesn’t kill those who he needs to take out to claim their power, just locks them up and tortures them until they are broken, no different than Ramsay.. other than no murder and more subtle in his mental abuse and manipulations, but at the end of the day just as evil and self serving.
“Jon (so is his actual surname, Fire, or Flame?).”
Nah, “Snow” is a bastard’s name, all the bastards from the north get that last name. The other bastard names are Sand, Waters, Rivers, Stone, Flowers, and Storm, but there is no “Fire”.
Now, technically he was born in the Marches so he could be called “Jon Waters”. Hmm, he does hang out with a cross-dresser now that I think about it...
I hope Sansa comes out of this intact. I am definitely rooting for Arya.
He may indeed be a true believer, but as you say, this means anything is okay, as long as HE perceives the end result is the greater good... and that is just as evil as any sadist that ever walked the earth.
The High Sparrow came from a background of affluence. He found peace and fulfillment through austerity and self-denial.
Since so many others appeared to be helped by his message, it would be reasonable for him to conclude that this is the remedy Westeros needs.
Loras, Margery & Cersi needed to be shown that they were no better than anyone else. Taking them out of their safezone would be the fastest way to reach them.
“This begs the question, is Tyrion the son of a Targaryen, instead of Tywin Lannisters child?”
There’s a longstanding theory that Tyrion is the bastard son of Joanna Lannister (Tywin’s wife) and Aerys Targaryen (Dany’s father). Apparently Aerys had a thing for her, and we know that Tywin repeatedly said he didn’t believe that Tyrion was his son, he just couldn’t prove it.
Also, all the Lannisters generally have blonde hair, especially the children of two Lannisters. Tywin and Joanna were both Lannisters, they were cousins. Just like Jaime and Cersei, we would expect all their kids to have blonde hair, but Tyrion has blonde hair streaked with black, so that is another clue that he could be a bastard.
The passage of time is the explanation. Sometimes things happen in the blink of an eye, when in reality it just took time.
Interesting... I hadn’t caught that the different houses had different names for the bastards.
You mentioned 6 bastard names.
There are 7 kingdoms/Houses.
I wonder if Fire/Flame could be the bastard name of a Targarion. That would make Jon Snow both Flame and Snow or..
both Fire and Ice!
“Arya appeared as a 6 year old girl to the guy in the brothel who liked little kids.”
Where do they mention the girl’s age? All I saw was a young girl in a baggy robe, you couldn’t tell without looking at the face whether the girl was 6 or 12.
Good catch!
You could be right.
To me, his methods made him no better than them. He was just another tyrant, clothed differently.
Yep, it’s inquisition’ish or Islamic’ish !
He had to have spoken at some point between the Twins and King’s Landing even if we didn’t see it. That’s a long ride!
Besides, Jaime can’t be dead, he’s still got plot armor. You don’t kill a character who is only halfway through a redemption arc, that’s writing 101.
I have noticed this as well. Not only on GOT, but elsewhere.
On Preacher, the Preacher is a fairly clueless dude, but his former sidekick, Tulip, is driven and kicks ass.
On Killjoys, the leader of the mercenaries is a woman.
On Hunters, the leader of the CIA group hunting the alien terrorists is a woman.
There is, of course, Secretary of State, which was one long Hillary Clinton commercial.
In fact, thinking back to just about every action show or movie I have seen in the past year, women have been either leaders or in a leadership role.
I think a lot of people don’t consider it that much of a revelation, because the evidence for it was so strong in the books, they just take it as a given.
It’s a bigger surprise to the show watchers, but if you read the books, it more like “finally, we got that out of the way”.
I see it differently.
Reminder your oppressors that they too are mortal and that they should have more respect for the working man, is no in of itself a bad thing.
The Church represents the best opportunity to rail in the excesses of the elites that the commons have. The alternatives are to hope for an eventual benevolent despot or start a doomed revolt.
The fact that some elites had to endure some mild discomfort that they regularly inflict on the commoners is part of the Sparrows tough love program.
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