Posted on 06/24/2016 6:15:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
Hey, Texplainer: Britain voted to leave the European Union. Can Texas secede from the United States?
In the wake of Britain’s historic vote to leave the European Union - nicknamed "Brexit" - speculation of a Texit on the horizon have cropped up once again. The secessionist movement has a long history in the Lone Star state. Delegates for the Texas Republican Party even recently debated adding secessionist language to the party's platform. But is it actually legal for Texas to leave the United States?
Simply put, the answer is no. Historical and legal precedents make it clear that Texas could not pull off a Texit - at least not legally.
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Of course, it's not my opinion on this which matters.
What matters is that Southerners themselves did not think such things necessarily cause for secession prior to the election of Lincoln in November 1860.
So long as Washington DC remained in friendly Democrat hands, Southerners were content to let politics play its course.
Only with Lincoln's election did they suddenly decide that every grievance, no matter how minor, was now just-cause to declare secession.
In reality, those were not "reasons for secession", they were just convenient excuses.
The real reason was to protect their "peculiar institution" against "Ape" Lincoln and his "Black Republicans".
Finally, on the issue of Northern "nullification", seems to me the Compromise of 1850 should have rendered them mute anyway.
They always say hind sight is 20-20...
We use to have many fine arguments around the shop when I was a working man.... I miss it a lot...
After reading the newspapers about all the rotten things going on in our country one of the things we would discuss was "If the civil war was fought today, which side would you fight for?" It was amazing to see the contortions that folks would go through in order to justify their reasoning....
I know in my heart and my mind that NO man should be another mans property.... "IF" that was what the war was all about.. I think slavery would have died on its own in our country simply because, we are a Christian nation and slavery is inherently evil.. That being said.... Knowing what you know now, which side would YOU have fought for..??
Personally, I think Lincoln got it wrong....
MHO......
In my reading of history slavery didn’t become a factor or was made a selling point of the war until much later. It all was about states rights at first and the Confederacy wanted to go their own way. The debate about the “War of Secession” got pretty heated here over the years. :)
Skydancer: “In my reading of history slavery didn’t become a factor or was made a selling point of the war until much later.”
But protecting slavery was the major factor driving Deep South declarations of secession, and major changes in their Confederate constitution.
Of course, slavery did not start Civil War, neither did secession or tariffs or anything else sometimes listed by pro-Confederates.
What started Civil War was the Confederate military assault on Union troops in Union Fort Sumter.
Yes, I understood your point. Your examples just weren’t very good ones for talking about secession.
The only think worse than someone who doesn’t “get” it is someone who doesn’t understand why their point is invalid, apparently.
Ft. Sumter: Yes, that was a precursor to the WoS as well as the shelling a few months before of a Union supply ship by VMA cadets.
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