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Elevated freeways are perfect kill zones
Zero Hedge ^ | 10 Jun, 2016 | hedgeless_horseman

Posted on 06/11/2016 1:47:11 PM PDT by MtnClimber

I have had several requests from friends to review the self-rescue gear we carry in our Get Back Home (GBH) bags, probably due to the recent but not unexpected flooding we have had this spring. Some readers may be surprised to learn that there is very little practical difference between self rescue from a flooded car and the common mountaineering skill known as rappelling.

I first began carrying self-rescue gear in our vehicles after considering how much of the highways in our major urban areas are elevated for miles and miles on end. I know what happens to these elevated freeways when they are subjected to an earthquake, or other shock wave, such as from a nuclear device.

But what concerned me just as much is that these elevated choke points are perfect kill zones. One or two lightly armed bad guys could easily cause a traffic jam and proceed to execute tens or hundreds of people until they either run out of ammunition or are stopped by someone with a firearm that is ready, willing, and able to do so.

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To: MtnClimber

The same could happen on any freeway overpass


21 posted on 06/11/2016 2:36:44 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: njslim

Excellent plan.
We have 8mm (near single use 1200 lb load climbing rope) as follows in order to reduce volume and weight in get home bag.
11mm is best, but sometimes a good enough rope is better than nothing if you’re more apt to carry it.

Available on Amazon for 50
Moonight Outdoor Climbing Rope 30m 8mm Escape Rope Climbing Equipment Fire Rescue Parachute Rope Safety Rope

Especially recommend using a rope chaffing guard such as:
Spiroll Chafe Guards - Pair, Orange 15.75” (Fits up to a 5/8” Line)


22 posted on 06/11/2016 2:46:25 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: BenLurkin

23 posted on 06/11/2016 2:48:02 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Trump's Slammed with every Hurdle - Hillary's granted every Mulligan. THAT'S WHY WE BACK TRUMP)
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To: MtnClimber

On most of the elevated highways I’ve seen, sliding down a rope would be jumping from the frying pan to the fire. They are elevated over certain neighborhoods for good reason.


24 posted on 06/11/2016 2:48:21 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: umgud

A handgun is, without a doubt, the ultimate weapon in the hands of modern man.

A rifle in the car presents challenges. I have a plan for traffic. So if the bridge goes out, the traffic is going to sit for days. You’ll have to walk.

Rifles don’t fit in bags, unless it’s a take down. And walking away from the highway with a rifle on your back is a sure fire way to get people on the phone reporting you.

The AR is a great “take down” and that’s how I keep it. So it doesn’t quite look the part of a rifle. Another thing I use is the Keltec KSG. This is a compact shotgun, and the sling points make it conceal under a jacket without any issues.

But the pistol is the best, hands-down. I know people say “Your pistol gets you to a rifle” but I think it’s time that people considered how powerful the compact firearm truly is. You can gather your gymbag and “gray man” it while maintaining protection and the ability to hunt for small game.

Make that pistol an FN five-seven and you’ll truly be capable.


25 posted on 06/11/2016 2:51:57 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Celerity

The author of the article does make it a five-seven and keeps a P90 in his bag. Of course in the comments there is plenty of discussion over that choice vs other calibers.


26 posted on 06/11/2016 3:00:19 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: MtnClimber

Probably couldn’t get to hundreds, unless they’re also taking the time to move the cars.


27 posted on 06/11/2016 3:03:55 PM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: MtnClimber
What I decided on for a car gun...


28 posted on 06/11/2016 3:05:29 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

Interesting.


29 posted on 06/11/2016 3:08:33 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GSWarrior

Or a tunnel. That would require return fire. No rappelling out of a tunnel. I carry every day, every place. Thinking about an SBR for car carry. 3 stamps applied for this past Thursday.


30 posted on 06/11/2016 3:09:24 PM PDT by rickomatic
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To: MtnClimber

There is only one overpass on Guam :}

I have a High Point .45 ACP carbine in the house for wild pigs but don’t really fee the need for a pistol. It is a wonderful thing to live in a blessed area where you feel safe


31 posted on 06/11/2016 3:13:53 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I'm not a crank! I just act like one.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

The nice thing about this particular firearm is how flat it shoots. With combat sights you can take a rabbit at longer distances than you might imagine.

Having once owned the FN (Losing a job sucks) I can’t speak highly enough of the ammo, transportation (Weight) and the accuracy. And if your flashlight dies at night, you can use the muzzle flash.

Next time I’m going for the PMR30.


32 posted on 06/11/2016 3:14:12 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: whinecountry; All

Note to self, more Forstchen available than I was aware of.

As to caliber in general, I’d chose a common one for uh mobile situations, figuring that if I do my job right, I’ll find reloads laying around. All this being hypothetical & all.

Honestly, I’m not in shape to carry all the gear from the article on my person. My own vehicle is a rolling prepper’s toolbox, & that’s as good as it’s going to get for me. Prioritize based on the sitch. I’m not gonna outrun a bad day.


33 posted on 06/11/2016 3:15:56 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Celerity
AK folder or AK handgun fits in tennis racket bags. The bags have handles to belt or tie into your car so you don't lose them in an accident.

A couple of 40 round mags fit in the tennis ball storage pocket.

Best bet though, is to get away if you can to avoid mistaken identity or be a target of the bad guy(s).

34 posted on 06/11/2016 3:16:17 PM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: rockrr
Excellent Choice there, rockrr !!

As a former owner of a Kel-Tec "Sweet-Sixteen", You have a truly affordable, Made-in-U.S.A. [Cocoa Beach, Florida] designated-Survival Rifle with more AR-compatibilities built into it than an entire page out of Cheaper-Than-Dirt accessories.

Your photo shows the "Charlie/ C-model" which is best for firing-capabilities while under-folded. Just will be harder for magazine-exchanges but You are set if You truly have ownership of this type of rifle now.

35 posted on 06/11/2016 3:18:07 PM PDT by ExcursionGuy84
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To: Titan Magroyne

Anyone here familiar with Armscor International in re: quality and reliability? I am a novice and was pointed to this manufacturer by a friend.


36 posted on 06/11/2016 3:24:56 PM PDT by whinecountry (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
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To: ExcursionGuy84

I’ve made minor modifications to the stock and practiced mag changes until I am completely comfortable with it. What drew me that that particular piece initially was how maneuverable it is within the confines of the cockpit - in the folded state of course.


37 posted on 06/11/2016 3:26:04 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: elpinta

http://www.gunlaws.com/links/

Easy to find the info online. As soon as you cross a state line, the laws will, no doubt, change. :)


38 posted on 06/11/2016 3:28:46 PM PDT by Daffynition ("We have the fight of our lives coming up to save our nation!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Celerity
And one of those cheapo hooks. Nothing too nice because I’m just going to leave it somewhere anyway.

A cheapo made-in-China hook, not too nice, might break. I would rather have a good mountain-climbing carabiner when I am trusting my life to it. Better to live and lose an expensive hook, than to have those last words going through my head: "I wish I had bought the expen---"

I am reminded of the story of a heat wave in Texas years ago, before global warming, when old people with brand new air conditioners sat in their houses and died because they didn't want to have the electric bill go up.

39 posted on 06/11/2016 3:59:35 PM PDT by webheart (We are all pretty much living in a fiction.)
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To: MtnClimber

ill probably just sit there and die quietly


40 posted on 06/11/2016 4:38:10 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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