Dogs were domesticated TWICE: Canines became man's best friend in Europe and Central Asia [tr]

UK Daily Mail ^ | June 2, 2016 | Russ Swan and Shivali Best

[C19fan]

They may be man's best friend, but the question of where domestic dogs originated has long remained a mystery. Some argue that humans first domesticated wolves in Europe, while others claim this happened in Central Asia. Now, a new paper suggests that both these claims may be right, and that dogs were domesticated not once, but twice.

[Cowboy Bob]

But in Europe, they didn’t domesticate them to be a food source.

[BenLurkin]

[C19fan]

Another longer article:

http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/06/the-origin-of-dogs/484976/

[alloysteel]

Dogs were domesticated in many places around the world, and at different times. There is still some attempted domestication going on with foxes and wolves in scattered places around the world, and dogs are not of one source, either wolves or foxes, but in many instances of crossbreeding between several subspecies of both foxes and wolves.

And who says that Europeans never turned to dogs as a food source. Depends on how scarce protein sources are through supply channels. A LOT of dogs went feral.

Still do.

[cicero2k]

The Russians ran an experiment. They took wild wolves into captivity and only allowed the docile pups to breed. In like eight generations all the pups became friendly dogs.

[goldstategop]

Dogs are NOT descended from wolves.

Both come from a now extinct wolf-like canid that lived 40,000 years ago and is the ancestor of both species.

They’re more like sister clades.

[goldstategop]

No they did that with foxes.

Given enough time and selective breeding, tame foxes would happen.

[SoCal Pubbie]

The physical appearance also changed over that time. They began looking more juvenile. Basically domestication is a suspended development of adulthood. True for humans too.

[cpdiii]

Dogs are coservatives. Cats are cats, I have both. I love my dogs and they love me. My cats use me. My dogs would defend me to their death. My cats would eat my remaiders.

I do not understand why I like my cats.

[T-Bone Texan]

"...domestication going on with foxes..."

The Russians have developed a tame, floppy-eared fox that that wants nothing more than to love and be loved by humans. They are adorable and I want one.

It is a fascinating story. It involved many generations of selective breeding.

[Louis Foxwell]

The Russian fox project is yielding some wonderful pets.

[UB355]

The Russian experiment on foxes not wolves

[tumblindice]

[SunkenCiv]

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• The Big Search to Find Out Where Dogs Come From [2016]
• Dogs can read human emotions, study finds (only other species shown to be capable of this) [2016]
• Dogs Mimic Each Other's Expressions, Too [2015]
• Canine Copycats Can Mirror Other Dogs' Emotions (Dogs Read Feelings) [2015]
• Dog has been man's best friend for 33,000 years, DNA study finds [2015]
• Aboriginal Female Hunters Aided By Dingoes [2015]
• Dogs 'Can Trace Origins To Central Asia' [2015]
• Otago Researchers Sequence Kuri Dog Genomes [2015]
• Have humans made dogs STUPID? Pets are 'lazy thinkers' compared to wild wolves [2015]
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• Fossils reveal felines drove 40 species of canines to extinction after arriving in North [tr] [2015]
• 'Golden jackals' of East Africa are actually 'golden wolves' [2015]
• Family Tree of Dogs and Wolves Is Found to Split Earlier Than Thought [2015]
• Dogs have been man's best friend 'for 40,000 years' [2015]
• Dogs bred from wolves helped humans take over from Neanderthal rivals in Europe 40,000 years ago [2015]
• Biologist Drake helps answer key question in canine history [Dog Domestication] [2015]
• Dogs are NOT descended from modern wolves but split from common ancestor 34,000 years ago [2014]
• Dingo- The World's Oldest Dog [2010]
• Scientists pinpoint origins of little dogs [2010]
• Dogs descended from wolf pack on Yangtze river [2009]
• Dog domestication likely started in N. Africa [2009]
• Living with humans has taught dogs morals, say scientists [2008]
• Mysterious Large Canines in Vermont Have Puzzling Ancestry [2007]
• Exploring The Wolves In Dogs' Clothing [2006]
• Experts: Dogs originated in ancient Asia [2004]
• Best friend, indeed: Dogs take human cues better than chimps [2002]
• World's Dogs Are Descended From Asian Wolves [2002]
• Prehistoric Brits Ate Like Wolves [2002]
• Dogs Make Us Human [2002]

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks C19fan and nickcarraway. Good choice for the weekly Digest ping as well.

• Humans May Have Domesticated Dogs Twice in Both Asia and Europe, New Study Shows [2016]
• Dogs were domesticated TWICE: Canines became man's best friend in Europe and Central Asia [tr] [2016]

[blam]

QUESTION?

How many animals did Africans domesticate?

List Of Domesticated Animals

[SunkenCiv]

Wow, blam, nice, struck a blow for multiregionalism!

[blam]

I think it was just recently that the first non-European country (Japan) discovered a new element. (Or,isolated it, or what-ever it's called)

[SunkenCiv]

I discovered methane at an early age, but that’s a compound. ;’)