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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
If I understand the concept of the closed primary, I agree with him. In Minnesota we have a caucus state. These are theoretically closed i.e. you have to be a Republican, have voted Republican of plan to do so in the next election.

If you want to violate that you have to lie. I would like it tighter than that, say the way NY dos it.

Who wants non Republicans picking Republican candidates? The Pary gets enough of that with the MSM helping to pick our candidates.

39 posted on 05/17/2016 4:22:40 PM PDT by stevem
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To: stevem

Many Independents are quite conservative and while they find the GOP disgusting, they will gladly vote for a Conservative Republican. Closed primaries would prevent Independents from voting. In NC they can vote in either primary but only in one not both. Great way to alienate Independents to tell them they have no say unless they become another GOP.


61 posted on 05/17/2016 4:34:14 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: stevem
If I understand the concept of the closed primary, I agree with him.

I agree also - but it is over.

Unless he wants to pull a John Belushi Animal House speech and shout 'Was it over when the Nazis bombed Pearl Harbor? It isn't over until we say it is over!!'

It is over, and time to get behind Trump and slay the Hildebeast.
Trump leans left, but he is willing to say things that no other politicians say; and I believe he is serious about protecting the borders, and he seriously recognizes the Islamic threat.
Everything else -- 'eh' ... But I'll take those two.

65 posted on 05/17/2016 4:35:35 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: stevem
Who wants non Republicans picking Republican candidates?

Who wants slaves to the GOPe picking RINOs for the nominee?

Those "non-Republicans" are independents who burned their Republican cards, only to come back when they saw Trump was running. If Republicans acted like Republicans, then yes, we should have closed primaries.

79 posted on 05/17/2016 4:42:28 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (MAGA! Make America Great Again)
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To: stevem
Who wants non Republicans picking Republican candidates? The [party] gets enough of that with the MSM helping to pick our candidates.

The reasoning behind allowing independents to vote in the party primaries (open ones) is in order to better reflect the will of the People, and to help select candidates which have viability for the general election.

What good does it do to nominate a party extremist if they can't garner enough votes to win a general election?

In any event, Donald Trump did well in both open and closed GOP primaries.

Ted Cruz, on the other hand, hardly won any primaries at all. Almost all of Ted Cruz's victories were in caucus states, which are sparsely attended and which rely on collectivist groupthink and peer pressure in order to grease the skids for the candidate favored by the party "insiders".

I have lost so much respect for Ted Cruz, I hope I'm never again faced with the need to vote for him for anything. He's an absolute disgrace at this point, talking past reality as if he can summon his own universe by endlessly repeating his hollow talking points.

I mean, come on, Ted, please get a grip. Either support your party's nominee or go away...

Vote Trump!

85 posted on 05/17/2016 4:46:43 PM PDT by sargon (Continue with 24/7 anti-Trump diatribes & insults, your opus will be assumed.)
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To: stevem

Preach it stevem!


160 posted on 05/17/2016 6:11:39 PM PDT by PrairieDawg (#NeverHillary or Warren or Biden or ...)
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To: stevem

That’s why closed primaries are the best way to go. Pubbies voting for pubbies. Commies voting for commies. No cross-over. No independents. No nobody! You can vote only if you’re registered either as a Republican or as a Communist, err, Democrat.


176 posted on 05/17/2016 6:26:40 PM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: stevem
If I understand the concept of the closed primary, I agree with him.

Ah, yes, but you are not letting your blind hatred of all things not-Trump to blind your reasoning.

198 posted on 05/17/2016 6:45:40 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: stevem
If I understand the concept of the closed primary, I agree with him.

You're not allowed to agree with the Evil Ted Cruz. Ever. About anything. Anyone who agrees with the Evil Ted Cruz, ever, about anything, must be destroyed. DOWN WITH EMMANUEL GOLDSTEIN TED CRUZ!!!

Who wants non Republicans picking Republican candidates?

In past elections, sane Republicans have recognized this as a legitimate problem. Demonicrats voting in Republican primaries may have given us Candidate Mitt Romney. Open primaries are stupid.

286 posted on 05/18/2016 7:54:13 AM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: stevem

I agree with your assessment, stevem.

It’s obvious that Dems and everyone to their left delight in screwing with us. Why give them actual power over who our nominee is?


318 posted on 05/18/2016 10:23:32 PM PDT by bootless (Is life so dear or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it!)
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To: stevem
Who wants non Republicans picking Republican candidates? The Pary gets enough of that with the MSM helping to pick our candidates.

Arguing for closed primaries is one thing, but trying to unbind the delegates on the first ballot is patently absurd. Bound delegates is the whole reason that people vote in primaries in the first place.

Ted Cruz wants a system that is even MORE rigged for insiders, like the Democrat party with its superdelegates.

Cruz is trying to be subversive of the democratic process as this point. What a conservative hero. He's lost his friggin' mind.

Oh, and, by the way, Donald Trump won many closed primaries this cycle. About the only thing Cruz could reliably win was caucuses, which rely on collective groupthink and strong-arming by the party apparatchiks. This guy is becoming a joke.

Vote Trump!

363 posted on 05/21/2016 11:07:26 AM PDT by sargon (You're either with Trump, or you're with Hillary.)
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