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No, Mr. Trump, NAFTA Was Not a ‘Bad Deal’
National Review ^ | May 5, 2016 | Tim Kane

Posted on 05/05/2016 9:30:43 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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Trump promises a return to tariffs. He also promises a wall with Mexico, penalties against profitable American companies, skimming foreign remittances, and more. Trump does not mince words, and you have to respect his forthrightness. What each of these solutions has in common is a heavy-handed government that imposes its will at the price of consumer freedom.

What right does a White House staffer have to tell you what you can buy and the extra price you have to pay if you choose the wrong product? Your freedom to trade — to buy what you want — is what’s at stake when anti-traders get rolling. They say it’s about protecting producers, but that is not how trade barriers work. Hugo Chavez and Joseph Stalin put up huge trade barriers and guess how many jobs that helped Venezuela and the Soviets create? Ni odnogo, as they say in Russian. Not a single one.

Yesterday, I asked Michael Boskin, former chief economist under President Bush in the early 1990s and the godfather of lowered trade barriers in North America, how he feels when NAFTA is used by politicians as the scapegoat for economic anxiety. He reminded me that faith in free trade waxes and wanes. The failure of tariffs is a constant in history, one that each generation demands to relearn. He asked: Remember the Corn Laws in 19th-century Britain? Remember the trade barriers among the states after the 1776 revolution that inspired our free-trade Constitution in 1789? The American Revolution in 1776 was inspired by the British Tea Act of 1773. It was the ultimate trade war: for freedom and against tariffs. How many young Sanders or Trump voters realize that?

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TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016issues; cuckservative; denial; election2016; nafta; nevertrump; newyork; rfh; trade; trump; yellowjournalism
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To: Rashputin

OH MY GOD.

Are you serious ? Makes my stomach sick.


81 posted on 05/05/2016 11:27:36 AM PDT by Busta Rhymes
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To: The Continental Op

They were so used to doing the choosing for us.

Arrogant bass turds.


82 posted on 05/05/2016 11:29:49 AM PDT by Busta Rhymes
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To: Busta Rhymes

Got Trump more votes than the GOP Elites lost by slugs at Fox News Contributors by hundreds of Thousands


83 posted on 05/05/2016 11:31:41 AM PDT by scooby321 (o even lower)
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To: scooby321

It’s so spankalicious too. LOL.


84 posted on 05/05/2016 11:37:48 AM PDT by Busta Rhymes
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To: Pelham

“Now that they are a GOPe propaganda machine they don’t seem to be struggling. You’d almost think that some big GOPe donors are keeping the shills alive...”

I would say this is certainly the case. Sad to see some of the writers become no more than prostitutes, but that is exactly what they are. Also, NR has over time purged all conservatives from the magazine.


85 posted on 05/05/2016 11:38:20 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Busta Rhymes
I don't have a link but the author was Something Williamson. You should be able to find it and he'll tell ya' the people are mostly addicts and bums anyway so they just need a U-Haul and to Hell with the factories closing.

Someone did a followup where they went to the town named in the article and it's nothing like what William says. It's run down, factories closed, and so on, but most people are working a couple of jobs to try and earn what they used to and getting by the best they can where there's no tax base to keep things in running trim anymore.

Just proves the point that the GOPe is out of touch with reality and has been a long time. They live wherever they like, email in an article not worth a tenth of what they get paid for it, do an interview over Skype here or there, hop on a paid for flight to some TV show once in a while to pontificate, and earn per year far more than the "greedy", "overpaid", factory workers who actually produce something other than Bullshit for other BS artists to quibble over.

But, of course, they're our "betters" so they're worth it, right ?

86 posted on 05/05/2016 11:48:52 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin

betters. They wish.

A few years ago Bill Moyers did a PBS program titled Two American Families.

http://www.pbs.org/video/2365042061/

While I’m not a fan of him or PBS, I will say this piece mimics what I witnessed but on a more city wide scale. The companies used the old union monster to hold over everyone’s heads. There was no union coming, it was the reasoning behind what they were going to do.

Fruit of the Loom
Garanimal brand company Garan Corp.
And a major manufacturer of body bags, can’t remember the name.
Not counting the companies in town that fired everyone only to replace them with South American cheap labor, housing to boot. What we would consider slavery but you know, we aren’t nuanced enough to understand Americans don’t want those jobs.

Making $3000 a month to sew ? Yeah, we turned our noses down on that. I saw a Walmart get shut down because no one had money to shop there. Grocery stores gone, not even a post office. It was horrific. And it never came back.

I still feel such hatred for any company that took the money and ran. It sickens me to no end. The greedy critters only know how to steal. They know nothing about anyone outside of their multi million dollar DC shitshacks.

It’s like they can’t stop hurting us.


87 posted on 05/05/2016 12:08:21 PM PDT by Busta Rhymes
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To: reaganaut1
No, Mr. Trump, NAFTA Was Not a ‘Bad Deal’

Yes, Mr. Kane, it IS!

I worked in Macon, GA when NAFTA was proposed, and out of curiosity, went to one of the few colleges that had the entire law in book form - two THICK volumes. I skimmed through the pages, and on the surface, it didn't seem like a bad deal - until you got to that last 100 pages of Vol. II.

They just about gutted the previous pages with all sorts of amendments. One I remember was exporting motors to Mexico - it ended up, we couldn't export anything larger than lawnmower engines while they could ship out anything. Another was trucking regs, where their HazMat drivers coming up here didn't have to obey our rules for the first 10 years, whereas none of ours could be on the road without certification.

A few months after NAFTA was enacted, a HUGE plant in Warner Robbins moved its work to Mexico. I went down there and walking about, got the creeps - the place was some kind of liquid processing plant (beer, I think) and it reminded me of those Science Fiction movies showing those eerie all-the-people-are-gone scenarios. The only sound was a barking dog.

I told that to one of the employees where I worked as a contract programmer. He told me that $18 an hour millwrights who used to work there were now mowing lawns, trying to stay afloat. The salt-in-the-wounds move came when the county raised property taxes to make up for the lost revenue, and many of those guys lost their homes.

One result the Macon Telegraph reported was that of a small one-industry black majority town. The outfit made brooms. They bailed to Mexico and just about the entire population had to go on welfare.

IMO, NAFTA was instrumental in gutting this country of its industry, so please, Mr. Kane, lay off the B/S.

88 posted on 05/05/2016 12:20:49 PM PDT by Oatka (Beware of an old man in a profession where men usually die young.)
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To: reaganaut1
"What right does a White House staffer have to tell you what you can buy and the extra price you have to pay if you choose the wrong product?"

Oh. Like ObamaCare®?

89 posted on 05/05/2016 12:25:11 PM PDT by JOAT
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To: Busta Rhymes
Hey, it's Rome in the century before Caesar. Romans were put out of work and their land taken for a pittence if not outright stolen because slave labor maxamized profits.

Why would greedy, Godless (or "Godly" who believe the same thing Victorian Brits did, that 'those people' are trash condemned by God), bastards now be any different than they were then?

They're the same fallen species who placated the masses with bread and circuses 2100 years ago so without the restraint of some kind of mass concensus on where the limits are they'll do exactly the same things.

90 posted on 05/05/2016 12:33:43 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin

I remember the article you talked about, about certain largely white towns having a “duty to die” due to immorality. (Switch that from white to black and they would, of course, swoon into their fainting couches at NR).

None of the NR writers have ever worked a real job. They went to prep school, off to the Ivy League, and then a job at a magazine supported by globalists. Nice work if you can get it. Only blister a guy like Rich Lowry or Jonah Goldberg ever got was when his Gucci loafers were too tight.

They will work tirelessly, in conjunction with the left media, to try to defeat Trump. They are fighting for their elite lives, and for ownership of their decrepit party machinery. Every day will come a new story. We must ignore and overcome.
Trump needs to take the fight to the media as well.


91 posted on 05/05/2016 12:49:38 PM PDT by The Continental Op
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To: Rashputin

I found it.

The White Ghetto.

Kevin D. Williamson


92 posted on 05/05/2016 1:34:27 PM PDT by Busta Rhymes
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To: Rashputin

There is no difference except they lie better and can broadcast it to millions.


93 posted on 05/05/2016 1:37:01 PM PDT by Busta Rhymes
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To: reaganaut1
The now 'defunct NR' still yapping!

NAFTA was a bad deal and it was passed over the objections of the American People, after we gave the GOP the Congress!

NAFTA would not have passed under a Democrat Congress.

94 posted on 05/05/2016 2:28:08 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Eisenhower Republican
That is correct!

The Americans were being treated like a colony and being denied their British rights of representation.

95 posted on 05/05/2016 2:33:44 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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