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The Real Redcoats: How the British fought the American Revolution—bravely
American Conservative ^ | April 28, 2016 | Alan Pell Crawford

Posted on 04/28/2016 8:03:06 AM PDT by C19fan

A few paces west of the public beach in Yorktown, Virginia, is a little cave looking out toward the water. We all know Yorktown from history class. This is where, in October 1781, the British army commanded by Lord Cornwallis surrendered to the Americans under General George Washington and the French under the Comte de Rochambeau.

It’s not much of a cave, really, but tourists by the thousands stop to peep into it, as they have for more than two centuries. It is known to this day as “Cornwallis’s Cave,” and for most of our history visitors have been told that this is where the British general took refuge during the last days of the siege. He hid there, guides said, and visitors nodded knowingly. That is because, as we all know, Cornwallis was a coward, and it was just like him to find such a fittingly ignominious hole wherein to snivel and whimper while, in the defenses around the town, his troops were destroyed.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 1776; army; british; cornwallis; revolution; yorktown
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1 posted on 04/28/2016 8:03:07 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

One of the amazing things about the American Revolution is that we beat the best army in the world. Washington was pretty amazing.


2 posted on 04/28/2016 8:06:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Harvey Dent -- can he be trusted?)
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To: C19fan

While I am in no way disagreeing with the writer, he seems to have forgotten a lesson, I learned during a tour of Shiloh.

“Winners get National Cemeteries and the narrative, while the losers get a common mass grave and scorn.”

Spoken by a man who had at least two relatives buried in that mass grave.


3 posted on 04/28/2016 8:10:02 AM PDT by Tupelo (we vote - THEY decide.)
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To: C19fan

Taking money to take away other people freedom doesn’t make you a good person, even if you are brave, even if you are good at it.


4 posted on 04/28/2016 8:11:57 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: ClearCase_guy; xzins
Washington was pretty amazing.

Washington gave all credit to "Divine Providence".

If God is with us, who can be against us. Rom 8:31

5 posted on 04/28/2016 8:18:03 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

One of the few times our French Allies acted like French troops and not surrender monkeys.

But then, that was before the best were killed off in Napoleonic and Prussian wars.


6 posted on 04/28/2016 8:19:01 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Douglas MacArthur was also the victim of that sort of smear. There were jokes made about how he hid in a cave during the battle of Corregidor.

In reality, MacArthur was a brave man. I recall reading a story about an infantryman in the Pacific. I believe it was during the New Guinea campaign. Anyway, the infantryman was advancing through hostile jungle, and he glanced to his side. There was MacArthur, doing a little recon of his own with a few staff officers.

7 posted on 04/28/2016 8:19:49 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Tupelo
At Concord, near the bridge where the fighting took place on April 19, 1775, there is a small memorial to the British soldiers who died there. My sympathies are entirely on the side of the Revolutionaries (I had an ancestor on the American side at Yorktown), but I found it poignant--these men died so far from home, doing their duty...in support of a pigheaded king and an arrogant Parliament.

A famous British scholar, now deceased, once came to speak in the US and revealed his connection to American history--he was descended from an illegitimate son of Lord Cornwallis.

8 posted on 04/28/2016 8:20:40 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Some British tactics were OK, some were foolhardy. But the overall strategy set by the top generals was incoherent. Both Burgoyne and Howe made major mistakes in the first years of the war. The British never really recovered from these errors.

The other problem was that all soldiers, and most supplies, had to be shipped across 3000 miles of ocean. This was enormously expensive. The American forces could recruit soldiers locally.


9 posted on 04/28/2016 8:21:57 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Leaning Right

I knew someone who was a survivor of the Bataan Death March and a Japanese POW camp. He didn’t have a high opinion of General MacArthur.


10 posted on 04/28/2016 8:22:00 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
MacArthur had an insufferable ego. Likewise did Patton. An older friend of the family served with Patton, and he absolutely hated the guy.
11 posted on 04/28/2016 8:28:33 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; P-Marlowe

I think Jeff Shaara’s series on the Revolution is the best. It attempts to get into the minds of the people involved. Washington won because he was patient. It caused him grief but he knew when a direct pitched battle was bad for him. He only engaged when he had some advantage.


12 posted on 04/28/2016 8:29:01 AM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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13 posted on 04/28/2016 8:29:51 AM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: ClearCase_guy

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone suggest that the Redcoats did anything less than fight bravely.

The only action that I think makes Cornwallis seem a coward was that he personally did not hand over his sword when he surrendered, claiming he was ill. However, given the state of his army and situation at that time its very very likely Cornwallis was not feigning illness.

Other than that act however, its hard to claim Cornwallis was a coward, he served his nation dutifully and nobly, just wound up on the losing side in the end.


14 posted on 04/28/2016 8:33:26 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: ClearCase_guy

The Battle of Lexington/Concord was a pretty epic one day march for the British. They left the North End of Boston at 0 early 30 and marched on foot out to lexington and back in one day while being shot at most of the day.

I rode that on my bike one day and thought it was a pretty good work out.


15 posted on 04/28/2016 8:34:15 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Most of the French commanders lost their heads to the guillotine during the French Revolution.


16 posted on 04/28/2016 8:35:02 AM PDT by NRx (It's sad when there is no one running for President that I can vote for with a clear conscience.)
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To: P-Marlowe

For countries governed by the likes of 0.00 and Turd-owe, that Scripture verse SHOULD strike terror in the hearts of such leaders!


17 posted on 04/28/2016 8:36:47 AM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: Leaning Right

“In reality, MacArthur was a brave man. “

MacArthur was a pompous idiot.


18 posted on 04/28/2016 8:39:57 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: thorvaldr
Taking money to take away other people freedom doesn’t make you a good person, even if you are brave, even if you are good at it.

The problem comes with defining freedom for other people. I'm sure there are Iraqis and Afghans who would say that American soldiers are taking away their freedom to do what they want to do.

19 posted on 04/28/2016 8:40:04 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: C19fan

I studied a fair amount about the American Revolution and it still is an interest of mine. I have to say that I don’t remember Cornwallis being portrayed as some stuffy snob. I remember him being portrayed in most of what I read as an aristocrat who initially opposed the war, but then was an intelligent, risk-taking commander who fought well. The one really bad thing I heard about him was that he fired into his own troops to try to win a battle. Howe is the one who was portrayed as dithering and undercutting his field commanders.


20 posted on 04/28/2016 8:40:41 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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