Posted on 04/19/2016 11:49:04 AM PDT by pgyanke
Credit to Pookie18
I don't know about you but I'm sick and tired of this election season. FR has turned into a bickering board of bitter bubbleheads, it seems. Where we used to see Ted Cruz as a principled conservative... we now attack anyone who likes him as a "Cruzite" or "Cruzombie"... what happened?
First, there was the attack against him that he played dirty tricks in Iowa by relaying an MSM message that Carson was leaving the race. What would you do? If you are in a popularity contest against multiple opponents, wouldn't you make sure that the votes of an ideological brother weren't wasted on a failed effort? It's a logical reasoning... and you don't have days to debate it in committee, you have minutes and seconds before votes are tallied. That Cruz apologized at all for this news media-inspired fiasco shows him to be the bigger man.
Then what? He's following the rules and gathering delegates? I thought we wanted someone who knows how the game is played and can win elections... silly me. The Trump supporters don't seem to realize that DT is not the closer he claims to be. He is riding a wave of populism but is losing on the rules because he is disorganized and unprepared.
Saying all of this doesn't mean I am anti-Trump... I am anti-Dem whether the Dem is Hillary, Bernie, or Biden. Doesn't matter to me. If Trump is the eventual nominee, he will get my vote to stop the Dem machine's destruction of our great country.
In the primary, though, I want the most conservative in the race who has shown he knows how to win. That man is Ted Cruz. Why he is slimed on a conservative board is beyond me... and it saddens me. Maybe he isn't your guy... fine. Why does he have to be slimed? If he does manage to pull out an upset... what have you accomplished but hurting our best chance for conservative restoration in this country?
And yet he's got people voting for him.
How is he doing that? It's got to be mass hypnosis or sumpin.
>> The hurt-feelings, stay-home count will be much higher here than among the general public.
I agree.
Three hundred or so won’t make a big difference in the outcome.
Raised in a cult, and a lawyer? No thanks.
So far, he has been deemed eligible by all election authorities to review the case.
- I learned his wife works for Goldman Sachs
I'm not a fan of the company... but not everyone who works there is evil.
- I learned that his Senate campaign was financed by loans from Goldman
Learn what a margin loan is. It's a loan against his own assets that he has to repay. It's a personal liability, not a gift from the company.
- I learned that his record on immigration was muddled
Who says it's muddled? Just because you and he don't agree 100% doesn't make him a dirtbag. Trump says he will build a wall... I'm still waiting on the specifics of how he will do it. Cruz has laid out his plans for everything in detail.
- I learned that he has been in favor of all the recent trade deals.
I'm not a fan of these either. It is what it is. Being the most conservative candidate in the race doesn't make him perfect. Again, my dialogue here is about the mind-raping slime machine that FR has become against Cruz. I didn't say he was perfect.
If Cruz becomes the Republican nominee I will vote for him against Hillary. That being said I do not like the man.
I would like an example to discuss, please.
Trump has received the most votes (2 million more than Cruz), won the most states (twice what Cruz has won), and won 200 more delegates than Cruz soon to be a lot more as NY is tabulated today and the other states coming up on April 26th, the date that will mark the end of Cruz's ability to reach 1,237 thru the primary process. So how is Cruz a winner when he can't even beat Trump, the novice who is running for elective office for the first time?
How much is Cruz really a conservative? Who are his donors? He is a first term senator without any real legislative accomplishments. He has spent most of his working life feeding at the public trough. He is closely related to the Bushes and has Neil Bush on his campaign staff. Lindsey Graham, a member of the Gang of 8, has endorsed him.
Cruz has had a conversion on the way to Cleveland on immigration and trade policy. Can we really trust him on these issues? Why has Senator Sessions endorsed Trump over Cruz?
Intellectual Dishonesty, Ted Cruz Supporters, and The TPA Argument
Why is he awful? Can you be specific?
>> It’s got to be mass hypnosis or sumpin.
I can’t speak for anyone but myself, but he’s been mailing me checks out of Heidi’s Goldman-Sachs account. Why, I’d crawl over broken glass to vote for him! ;-)
The problem with the idea of running government like it’s a business is it’s not a business. It produces nothing but consumes everything it can manage to claim, and it’s chief legitimate functions are killing foreign bad guys and incarcerating the domestic sort. It’s also a giant committee, in the worst and best possible senses, that bludgeons on slowly but irresistibly. Putting someone in charge of the executive who’s accustomed to having people jump when he tells them to and have him deal with a 435 member board of directors, nine impervious watchdogs in black robes, a corporate charter dating back to 1787 specifically designed to tie his hands behind him, and a fickle customer base of over 300 million would be interesting. But also a risky move.
Yes, lots of us used to think Ted Cruz was a constitutional conservative, with high hopes for his political future.
That was back before it leaked out that he was a natural born Canadian citizen, that he was most likely never a US citizen, that he was definitely NOT constitutionally eligible for the US presidency, and most likely not even eligible to hold the Senate seat that he currently occupies.
That was also before his opening speech at Liberty University wherein he revealed himself as a snake-oil salesman chasing the lowest-IQ ten percent of the electorate who bow down to any sleazy, slimy, lyin', cheating, sniveling, scumbag who simply mentions the word "Jesus" in their pitch. Lucky for the USA, the Southern Bible Belt people have seen that garbage far too many times, and all across the South, they soundly rejected Slimy Sleazy Lyin' Ted right off the bat.
That was also before the stories of his long string of sleazy infidelities started leaking out.
That was also before he was openly hooked up with Looney Glenn Beck, follow shortly by Mitt Romney, the Bushes, and a long, long list of other GOP establishment commie globalist pukes.
Then all the slimy behavior on the campaign trail, and in the debates ...
And it just keeps getting worse for Lyin' Ted.
I got my own black helicopter.
Isn’t he mathematically eliminated tonight on next week? It’s all sloppy seconds after that for him.
I recall a Cruz supporter damning all of the Trump supporters to hell.
I do not attack those who support Cruz. I do not support him but, if necessary, will vote for him in the general. I have seen many on the other side declare they will not do the same for Trump.
When Cruz backed the anarchists in Chicago over an opposing candidate’s rally and his right to free speech while claiming to be a strict constitutionalist is what soured my opinion for Cruz.
1. Even if it happened as you believe it did... it isn't cheating. Underhanded... yes. Cheating... no.
2. You have been lied to. Go back and review... there are articles on FR with the timeline. The MSM started the news and the Cruz camp reacted quickly to capitalize... that's what you would expect your guy to do rather than sit back and let votes go to waste.
3. To this day, I have yet to see where this incident had any impact on the Iowa results.
What happened to Cruz was he was found out as a GOPe mole in the Tea Party.
Really? He may sound that way through the Trump and MSM Filter... when was the last time you listened to him directly? He's been consistent and conservative throughout.
Grow up.
You first.
By the Trump standard of comparing Dr. Ben Carson to a child molester, Trump likes to get endorsements from pedophiles. See how your logic works there?
I used to think James Madison was too, until I found out he never ran a big, successful company.
>Can you please give an example for discussion?
Donald Trump defended Cruz's daughters when the media mocked them as monkeys. Trump did the right thing.
And here's Cruz when a violent BLM riot shutdown a Trump rally:
>Yet Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, Trump's main rival for the GOP presidential nomination who declined at CNN’s Republican debate this week to blame Trump for violence at his rallies, took a much sharper tone on Friday night.
>”In any campaign, responsibility starts at the top,” Cruz told reporters in Rolling Meadows, Illinois.
“When you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence,” he continued, “you create an environment that only encourages that sort of nasty discourse.”
Cruz added that the violence was a “predictable consequence” of Trump's posture toward protesters at his events.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/11/politics/donald-trump-chicago-protests/
Cruz had a wonderful chance to stand up for the first amendment, free speech and to condemn the leftist media and the violent BLM movement. Instead he slammed Trump.
Whenever Ted's had a chance to stand up for Constitutional rights he instead follows the media's narrative and slams Trump.
Four more in Crown Heights.
Mrs. Jewbacca and I and her parents.
Plus pretty much the entire shul, but I don’t know the number there.
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