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IRISH: THE FORGOTTEN WHITE SLAVES
Setting Record Straight blog ^ | March 17, 2016 | Ronald Dwyer

Posted on 03/18/2016 4:43:22 AM PDT by high info voter

They came as slaves: human cargo transported on British ships bound for the Americas. They were shipped by the hundreds of thousands and included men, women, and even the youngest of children.

Whenever they rebelled or even disobeyed an order, they were punished in the harshest ways. Slave owners would hang their human property by their hands and set their hands or feet on fire as one form of punishment. Some were burned alive and had their heads placed on pikes in the marketplace as a warning to other captives.

We don’t really need to go through all of the gory details, do we? We know all too well the atrocities of the African slave trade.

But are we talking about African slavery? King James VI and Charles I also led a continued effort to enslave the Irish. Britain’s Oliver Cromwell furthered this practice of dehumanizing one’s next door neighbor.

The Irish slave trade began when James VI sold 30,000 Irish .........

(Excerpt) Read more at settingrecordstraight.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Education; History; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: african; catholic; irish; slaves
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Never know about this...... amazing!
1 posted on 03/18/2016 4:43:22 AM PDT by high info voter
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To: wardaddy; stainlessbanner; PeaRidge; rustbucket

Ping


2 posted on 03/18/2016 4:52:52 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (Vote Tom Hoefling 2016 to restore our God given unalienable rights and Liberty's)
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To: high info voter

Over several years, Cromwell winded up puttin 2/3s of the Irish population into slavery and shipping them to the new world.


3 posted on 03/18/2016 4:55:17 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Slavery will continue to exist and thrive as long a Islam continues to exist.)
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To: high info voter

I’m sure it will be ignored by blm.


4 posted on 03/18/2016 4:55:43 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: high info voter

Was in my history books, but then that was 60 years ago ... where are my reparations?


5 posted on 03/18/2016 5:00:46 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: high info voter

King James VI ???

Does the author mean King James VI of Scotland who was also King James I of England ??? The son of Mary, Queen of Scots ???

There was no King James VI of England...


6 posted on 03/18/2016 5:01:08 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: high info voter
Saint Patrick was sold into slavery as a child.
7 posted on 03/18/2016 5:01:24 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Happy Saint Paddys Day!)
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To: high info voter

I want my reparations.

Just curious, since you have never heard of this...this must have never been taught to you in school...so I was wondering if I could pry and ask your approximate age. The subject was at least glossed over in school, in the 1980’s...so I’m just wondering if its been erased from the text books.


8 posted on 03/18/2016 5:02:22 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: high info voter
I thought that most Irish came here as indentured servants. Their lives were brutal. Many died because of horrific work conditions in factories. The distinction is that their children weren't born into slavery, but most often into poverty.

The whole reparations thing is bizarre pandering. Most folks except for blacks recognize the sacrifices their ancestors made or were forced to make for them, and moved on with hard work, education, and leading decent lives to achieve better lives.

9 posted on 03/18/2016 5:03:09 AM PDT by grania
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To: BuffaloJack

The subjugation of the Irish by the English began long before Oliver Cromwell. As early as Henry IV, Sir John Talbot, who would feature prominently in Henry’s “band of brothers” at Harfleur and Agincourt, made his name putting down rebellions in Ireland. For his “strong hand” in dealing with the Celtic “savages’” Talbot was made March Earl of Shrewsbury. Suppression of the Irish continued under the Tudors, until a posting to that troubled state became a career challenge for aspiring courtiers, and the ruination of many.


10 posted on 03/18/2016 5:08:28 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: 4yearlurker

St. Patrick was not Irish! He was English and was enslaved in Ireland.


11 posted on 03/18/2016 5:11:08 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: high info voter
No, I read an article yesterday that said Irish slavery was a myth, and that the trans-Atlantic slave trade through Africa was operating in America some 27 years BEFORE Columbus landed here.

Some "scholar" that guy was.(/sarc)

12 posted on 03/18/2016 5:12:50 AM PDT by cincinnati65
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To: BuffaloJack

Cromwell is still a curse to Irish-Americans. The Irish have become more forgiving towards the British in recent years while Irish-Americans remain bitter. One of the reasons, regrettably, they gave money to the IRA.


13 posted on 03/18/2016 5:20:16 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: high info voter
In 17th century Virginia only one out of seven indentured servants survived to the end of his term of indenture. From the minute they stepped off the boat they were worth more dead than alive. Those servants were English.

There was also a particularly evil group of entrepreneurs in England at the time known as "crimps" who specialized in stealing children and exporting them to the colonies as servants.

14 posted on 03/18/2016 5:21:58 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: IronJack

My favorite king, Richard the Third, was well-loved by the Irish. His brother was born there and his family had deep ties to Ireland. One of the reasons he got under the skin of the barons and nobility was his support of noble Irish families against the interests of the English aristocracy.


15 posted on 03/18/2016 5:25:23 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: high info voter

My ancestor was sold into slavery to work fields in the West Indies. Escaped and made it to VA in 1657.


16 posted on 03/18/2016 5:26:21 AM PDT by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: high info voter

White slaves don’t count. Whites are officially excluded from membership in America’s biggest government-certified victim group.


17 posted on 03/18/2016 5:27:41 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: high info voter

There are a number of books on white slavery. Read more on the subject and you’ll find out that white slavery was much more brutal than black slavery because there wasn’t an initial investment in the white slave so they were just worked to death and then thrown to the vultures. The average Irish slave lasted about a year on the Caribbean Island sugar plantations.


18 posted on 03/18/2016 5:27:44 AM PDT by cowboyway ("Give me a beer or two and I'll be fine, at least that's worked every other time....")
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To: grania
As bad as conditions were for immigrants at the beginning of the 20th century it was for most, STILL better than what they left behind.

In the case of my grandparents, they left behind MORE than poverty. They left oppression and hopelessness behind as well.

In America, their work secured their place for them and there were NO impediments to them, so long as they persevered. Of course, there was hardship and sacrifice, but who ever gained anything worth having without hardship and sacrifice? Also, they assimilated with eagerness, knowing that their children would have the best chance of success that way! Whining, pouting and grumbling were unthinkable! Laziness, crime and surly conduct were anathema!

19 posted on 03/18/2016 5:28:51 AM PDT by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: high info voter; wardaddy

Yep, Cromwell was a piece of work, and so were the English invaders and overlords he set upon Ireland. Bad enough to wipe out a third of the Irish population in a generation.

Mass murder on that scale doesn’t require gas chambers, just drive people out of their homes and off their land for a few winters.

It would be no different today, and it could happen during a grid collapse. In fact, the Irish then were probably hardier, and grew most of their food within a walk of their homes. How about today? How much food grows in your zip code? Area code? If desperate people were fighting over every morsel?

The Cromwell invasion of Ireland and its consequences upon the population should be studied for modern parallels. Instead of English soldiers driving the Irish from their homes to die of starvation, exposure and disease, a grid collapse could cause a similar mass diaspora from the starving and dehydrating cities.

The Thirty Years War happening around the same time on the continent resulted in a similar die-off for similar reasons. Just disrupt the agricultural production over a wide area for a few years, and you have a mass die-off.

Today, nearly all of our food production relies upon an elaborate infrastructure to deliver fuel and chemicals and seeds to farms. Trucks carry the food to a series of plants and finally to our stores. If the grid collapses for even weeks, a modern society can go right off the rails.


20 posted on 03/18/2016 5:34:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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