Posted on 03/05/2016 7:06:52 AM PST by snarkpup
Ted Cruz has rejected the idea of stopping Donald Trump's presidential campaign at a brokered convention, saying the move would lead to a 'revolt' among voters.
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Cruz likely has his own reasons for wanting to avoid a brokered convention, however, as it is unlikely that he would receive the backing of many superdelegates, once released from the candidate they are now tied to.
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In the case of a brokered convention, Rubio and Kasich likely have the most to gain - and unsurprisingly they are the two candidates thought to be preparing for just such an event.
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“They HATE the Clintons, know what a disaster Bernie would be, but they like American jobs, despise illegals and are now all in for Trump’”
I’m staying in a hotel in PA and there are four union members working here from NY. All four have expressed the same sentiments to me.
I’ll say it again prove to me Trump wrote a single one of those papers. Hell I’ll go one further....the gem of a book he never misses an opportunity reminding us how great a book it is “Art of the Deal” I’m saying was written by a ghost writer with his name attached. Ever hear him cite a passage? Ever hear him align a passage and compare it to today on how to “make America great?” You’d think his crown jewel he cited he’d be able to do that? Don’t you?
The man is a salesman
Joe Biden is living proof that the VP can be the village idiot and not impact the election. It only matters if the President is incapacitated or worse during his term. THEN, you want a strong VP to step in. Dick Cheney would be the best example I can think of in my lifetime.
While winning OH may be a good reason for choosing Kasich, you could apply that logic to a lot of other people and states. I think that logic applies to Cruz and carrying the south (Not saying Trump should have to pick either of these).
I have long said that, for the number of people and leaders we have in our nation of 300 million, the bench of candidates seems pathetically shallow. It would not surprise me at all for Trump to pull from a completely different pool of talent. I have no doubt he has the resources to find the best folks to work with him.
Kasich is pure Establishment and embraces Common Core.
I can’t see how Trump would pick an establishment lackey like Kasich - he would be another GHWBush pick.
PING!!
Thanks for the tip, WildHighlander57
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I give it to Charles Krauthammer he may be an anti-Trump establishment RINO, but he gets it as well, he said, Attempting to take the nomination from Trump at the convention will result in blood on the convention center floor...and I hope, its only metaphorically.
That would make a perfect GOP ticket that multitudes could and would STRONGLY support to the utter horror of the establishment and it would utterly destroy any and all of the GOPe’s “brokered ‘let’s steal the nomination’ convention” machinations. Another “up side” is as VP, Cruz would become THE deciding vote in the Senate regarding ties.
YOU are the salesman, selling speculation and grousing about the only MAN on the field who even *has* real life accomplishment.
The rest of this field lives on platitudes, waving the flag in one hand, the Constitution in the other and the Bible firmly clinched between the teeth, while building on colossal lies for a new campaign strategy, since the “policy weeds” approach and along with the South dumped him. Big time. His own “firewall”.
Go North and it will be even worse for Cruz. Go to the General Election and he is buried entirely, since he has banked on the smallest constituency in America— the cult of the Religious Right.
I don’t see how it could called be forcing one if no one has the required delegates. That is the way it works, and has worked in the past. The problem will come in if the RNC tries to push and pull delegates to their favorite over others who have more support. There will have to be a first vote, if no one wins that it becomes an open convention, like it or not.
They want the brokered convention to look ‘legitimate’.
You can expect massive voter fraud from here on out.
Unless people get their asses out there and vote. You can’t create thousands of votes that don’t exist.
Make sure it isn’t close - give people a ride if you have to.
You just missed the point. I said fences will have to be mended. Kasich is a good party foot soldier. He will do what he’s told and Trump won’t have to look over his shoulder for the knife in his back. We need to win Ohio and Kasich can help.
Trump is a newbie in Washington. He needs a couple of grizzled old timers who have congenial access to everybody in the legislature. That would be Kasich and Newt. Politics does not come to a halt because Trump gets in the Whitehouse.
You don’t get it. Cruz is universally hated in the legislature except for about 50 guys in the conservative caucus. He is hated in the Senate by almost everybody.
When Trump wins the nomination as he will most certainly do in the next few weeks he is going to have to mend fences with the party. Cruz is the worst possible choice. He brings nothing to the ticket. And down the road he will be opposed to Trump’s agenda and certainly have no standing of credibility with the Congress to advance it. He’s the last guy in the world I’d pick.
Now wait a minute. If Cruz is really doing this in Florida, wouldn't that be to prevent Rubio from winning? No way is Cruz going to take more votes away from Trump than Rubio.
This, along with the comment about the brokered convention, really look like a yuuge change meant to send the message, "me or Trump". I don't see how he wins, but I respect the notion.
However, thinking this over for a moment, I would guess that someone’s thinking on this, since we all know Cruz can’t win Florida, is that Cruz competing would hurt Trump more than Rubio and allow Rubio to win. But I think they are figuring wrong as usual and the result is Trump wins.
Cruz has been PART of the "revolution" before most people even knew there WAS a revolution.
What was Trump doing in 2008, while grass roots organizations were coming together to fight Washington? Where was Trump when Cruz was fighting (and WINNING) against Bush/globalists who were trying to FORCE Texas to free ILLEGAL ALIEN rapists/murderers under FOREIGN laws?
Oh yeah....now I remember, Trump was busy SUPPORTING the Democrats (who helped DESTROY America as we know it) ......and sitting in his ivory tower counting his coins waiting for the "precise moment" when he could "remake himself" in order to pretend he was part of a movement that he hasn't worked for...... and doesn't even understand.
Also, don't forget that much of that policy paper had to do with "free movement of labor." 'Free movement of labor'= open borders. We have, at this point in time, both *porous* (not officially legally open borders, but pretty darn close to that), and a large welfare state. Milton Friedman said you can have one, or the other, but not both. He was eminently correct on this, human nature being as it is. Something has to give here, so what is it going to be?
the infowarrior
Nobody is demanding that the IRS release anyone’s returns. However, it’s within the power of any candidate to release their own returns.
Unless they have something to hide.
Kinda like Obama’s college transcripts.
I cant disagree with your argument against a Cruz VP pick. Its a valid concern. And I was never endorsing him as a VP pick. (Please don’t accuse me of not “getting it”.) Personally, I think its a bit early to be worried about VP picks anyway.
My point is that there must surely be other constitutionally law minded, patriotic, folks out there to draw from, as the GOPe bench is so shallow. Trump may easily find a “uniter” that is also outside the DC circle. It seems like every insider in the party that has been floated for, or run for, President 16, has been found to be flawed or beholden to interests contrary to the people who elect them. I guess Trump could look to the republicans who have defected from this GOPe/Romney assault first, but I really don’t have a high opinion of the Chris Christy’s of the party either.
Changing my words around? You must be a Cruz follower. Thats what he does every single day.
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