Posted on 03/03/2016 7:52:05 AM PST by Be Careful
Can anyone project the math? I cannot.....and am growing in despair that Trump cannot achieve this.....thus a brokered convention and a Rino candidate.
Yes, that is the common usage, but it is none the less inaccurate.
Yes he can. This stuff is just stupid at this point.
He doesn’t have over 50% of the delegates now. Rubio and Cruz combined have more than Trump. With the closed primaries coming up, it is unlikely he will hit the number of delegates needed. With a good chance of Rule 40 being changed before the convention, I wouldn’t worry about the 8 states at all.
Usage determines the meaning of words. You can insist, for example, that ‘gay’ means ‘light hearted, festive and and happy.’ But after asking directions to the nearest gay bar, you can’t blame language for the wretched experience that awaits.
Use your own search engine. Read as many definitions of ‘brokered convention’ as you like. Most if not all agree with Bing, bc that is the current usage.
All he has to do is bring Cruz on board and there will be no brokered convention. I can see it happening Cruz hates the GOPe just as much at Trump. A brokered convention would not be to Ted’s benefit.
But?....isn’t that what they did in 2012 to thwart a floor nomination of Ron Paul?
The word broker means a salesman who controls a product for sale. Incorrect usage cannot change the definition.
I agree....I think that Trump will offer the vacant court seat to Cruz in order to secure his support.
However, I am not sure if a candidate can transfer his delegates if he/she drops out.
I had read on a previous post that those delegates are handled differently by each state. If so, who knows where loyalties lie.
The big Winner-takes-all states will decide the nomination, if it’s not decided before hand.
SC was WTA.
FL, IL and OH, on the 15th, are the next. After the 15th, most are WTA. Who ever comes in first picks up all the delegation, and will be catapulted to the magic number 8 and to the magic number 1268 (?).
Trump is on line, and he will secure the nomination unless something changes big soon.
Incorrect usage most certainly can, over time, change the definition. To see just a few examples, have a look at the following site:
http://m.neatorama.com/2009/06/29/words-that-changed-their-meanings/
Here’s an article all about a single word, but it’s crystal clear: after decades of misuse, the word literally took on a different meaning.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/13/literally-broken-english-language-definition
When the WTA states come on line March 15th, Trump is well positioned to acquire the needed 900 delegates. Hell, CA alone awards 190 delegates WTA.
Bottom line, the other candidate have to WIN in the WTA states and none appears to be positioned to do so.
Are you sure about the 50% threshold? It's my understanding it's 8 states won. No threshold.
Don't forget Michigan next week and Illinois on the 15th.
Yes, Trump can do it, and actually it won’t be all that difficult.
The 8 states thing is NOT about popular vote, it is about delegates. Trump already has 5 such states, and Cruz only 1. The proportioned states are ending soon (March 14, just in time for the big primary day on March 15). Then we’ll be in mostly winner-take-all territory, and Trump will start that off with a bang in Florida (where he’s got a 20-point lead), and get all 99 of its delegates.
He will also likely win NY, PA, NJ, DE and CT (his home state or near it), for 265 more delegates and 5 more states (but he’ll have vaulted over 8 states long before those primaries.
Re: Cruz - no, it WON’T be easier for him. He appeals (in this election cycle) to a much narrower band of people, the very conservative. Not too many of them, percentage-wise, in the vote-rich Northeast, Midwest or Far West (CA, OR and WA). Those are Trump territory, not Cruz territory. Cruz needs to win 4 or 5 states this week, maybe more - that was his plan from the start, and it didn’t pan out because NO ONE counted on Trump being in the race, or being this successful if in it.
Current GOP convention rules expire the day before the convention, is my understanding.
SC ended up being WTA but only because Trump did so well there. It could have split if the other candidates had qualified for some of the vote (i.e. a 25% threshold or something.)
It is definitely 50% of the delegates of eight states.
“1236 candidates, yes, I believe he can.
8 states over 50%? I really doubt it, unless Cruz drops out really soon”
I agree. It is the 50% over 8 states that is the problem. If Trump gets over 1236 delegates and is not the winner there will be hell to pay.
“It is 8 states with over 50% of the delegates, not votes.”
If it is delegates than yes he stands a chance.
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