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Can Trump Take Magic 8 States and 1236 Delegates to Avoid Brokered Convention?

Posted on 03/03/2016 7:52:05 AM PST by Be Careful

Can anyone project the math? I cannot.....and am growing in despair that Trump cannot achieve this.....thus a brokered convention and a Rino candidate.


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To: Fantasywriter

Yes, that is the common usage, but it is none the less inaccurate.


41 posted on 03/03/2016 8:44:38 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: Be Careful

Yes he can. This stuff is just stupid at this point.


42 posted on 03/03/2016 8:56:55 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Be Careful

He doesn’t have over 50% of the delegates now. Rubio and Cruz combined have more than Trump. With the closed primaries coming up, it is unlikely he will hit the number of delegates needed. With a good chance of Rule 40 being changed before the convention, I wouldn’t worry about the 8 states at all.


43 posted on 03/03/2016 8:57:44 AM PST by mak5
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To: iowamark

Usage determines the meaning of words. You can insist, for example, that ‘gay’ means ‘light hearted, festive and and happy.’ But after asking directions to the nearest gay bar, you can’t blame language for the wretched experience that awaits.

Use your own search engine. Read as many definitions of ‘brokered convention’ as you like. Most if not all agree with Bing, bc that is the current usage.


44 posted on 03/03/2016 9:05:07 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Be Careful

All he has to do is bring Cruz on board and there will be no brokered convention. I can see it happening Cruz hates the GOPe just as much at Trump. A brokered convention would not be to Ted’s benefit.


45 posted on 03/03/2016 9:05:54 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: mak5
With a good chance of Rule 40 being changed before the convention

From what I have read, the rule cannot be changed before the convention. Changes would impact the next election, not the current one.


46 posted on 03/03/2016 9:09:26 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

But?....isn’t that what they did in 2012 to thwart a floor nomination of Ron Paul?


47 posted on 03/03/2016 9:23:40 AM PST by Be Careful
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To: Fantasywriter

The word broker means a salesman who controls a product for sale. Incorrect usage cannot change the definition.


48 posted on 03/03/2016 9:25:25 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: usurper

I agree....I think that Trump will offer the vacant court seat to Cruz in order to secure his support.

However, I am not sure if a candidate can transfer his delegates if he/she drops out.

I had read on a previous post that those delegates are handled differently by each state. If so, who knows where loyalties lie.


49 posted on 03/03/2016 9:26:36 AM PST by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful

The big Winner-takes-all states will decide the nomination, if it’s not decided before hand.

SC was WTA.

FL, IL and OH, on the 15th, are the next. After the 15th, most are WTA. Who ever comes in first picks up all the delegation, and will be catapulted to the magic number 8 and to the magic number 1268 (?).

Trump is on line, and he will secure the nomination unless something changes big soon.


50 posted on 03/03/2016 9:48:55 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: iowamark

Incorrect usage most certainly can, over time, change the definition. To see just a few examples, have a look at the following site:

http://m.neatorama.com/2009/06/29/words-that-changed-their-meanings/

Here’s an article all about a single word, but it’s crystal clear: after decades of misuse, the word literally took on a different meaning.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/13/literally-broken-english-language-definition


51 posted on 03/03/2016 9:49:39 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Be Careful
He has already met the 8 win threshold, now it's about delegate count.

When the WTA states come on line March 15th, Trump is well positioned to acquire the needed 900 delegates. Hell, CA alone awards 190 delegates WTA.

Bottom line, the other candidate have to WIN in the WTA states and none appears to be positioned to do so.

52 posted on 03/03/2016 10:02:12 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
"8 states over 50%?"

Are you sure about the 50% threshold? It's my understanding it's 8 states won. No threshold.

53 posted on 03/03/2016 10:03:52 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: MNJohnnie
"Florida and Ohio are the key."

Don't forget Michigan next week and Illinois on the 15th.

54 posted on 03/03/2016 10:06:19 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost; Be Careful; Wyrd bið ful aræd

Yes, Trump can do it, and actually it won’t be all that difficult.

The 8 states thing is NOT about popular vote, it is about delegates. Trump already has 5 such states, and Cruz only 1. The proportioned states are ending soon (March 14, just in time for the big primary day on March 15). Then we’ll be in mostly winner-take-all territory, and Trump will start that off with a bang in Florida (where he’s got a 20-point lead), and get all 99 of its delegates.

He will also likely win NY, PA, NJ, DE and CT (his home state or near it), for 265 more delegates and 5 more states (but he’ll have vaulted over 8 states long before those primaries.

Re: Cruz - no, it WON’T be easier for him. He appeals (in this election cycle) to a much narrower band of people, the very conservative. Not too many of them, percentage-wise, in the vote-rich Northeast, Midwest or Far West (CA, OR and WA). Those are Trump territory, not Cruz territory. Cruz needs to win 4 or 5 states this week, maybe more - that was his plan from the start, and it didn’t pan out because NO ONE counted on Trump being in the race, or being this successful if in it.


55 posted on 03/03/2016 10:20:23 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: TomGuy

Current GOP convention rules expire the day before the convention, is my understanding.


56 posted on 03/03/2016 10:32:31 AM PST by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too !)
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To: Redmen4ever

SC ended up being WTA but only because Trump did so well there. It could have split if the other candidates had qualified for some of the vote (i.e. a 25% threshold or something.)


57 posted on 03/03/2016 10:35:18 AM PST by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too !)
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To: Mariner

It is definitely 50% of the delegates of eight states.


58 posted on 03/03/2016 10:36:20 AM PST by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too !)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“1236 candidates, yes, I believe he can.

8 states over 50%? I really doubt it, unless Cruz drops out really soon”

I agree. It is the 50% over 8 states that is the problem. If Trump gets over 1236 delegates and is not the winner there will be hell to pay.


59 posted on 03/03/2016 10:36:54 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: PJBankard

“It is 8 states with over 50% of the delegates, not votes.”

If it is delegates than yes he stands a chance.


60 posted on 03/03/2016 10:37:46 AM PST by Parley Baer
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