Posted on 02/19/2016 6:03:16 PM PST by hardspunned
I've come to this site every day since Ted Cruz became a national political figure. Perhaps I'm just getting old with a failing memory but I can't recall any derogatory posts about Cruz until Donald Trump began his ad hominem attacks on him. I don't remember Freepers attacking him as he built a record in the senate.
Can someone direct me to the threads and posts by the Freepers who now hate Cruz that were made prior to September of last year?
Hey hardspanned....I just responded to an attack from you telling me I was not conservative...I asked just how many threads you have posted...Hmmm well at least one...
I have had concerns about Cruz since I found out Ted Cruz stance on H-1B Visas (LOL that is about when you joined...) when the H-1B Visa abuse issue was becoming known.
Oh and your guy, Cruz wanted to increase H-1B Visas by FIVE HUNDRED PERCENT! 500 Percent!?!
You accused me of not being a conservative...well sorry, I don’t think increasing H-1B Visas is being a conservative...
Free Republic plays DOOM. Every. Single. time.
This is big-league politics. Cruz has no path to victory. The American people want the borders sealed, ISIS’ ass kicked, and high-paying manufacturing jobs back in the U.S of A.
Cruz’s disciples are why people turned on him. If Jesus had disciples like Cruz’s backers, we would be praying to Roman Gods.
Just my 2 cents, and I don’t care which guy wins.
I don’t hate the guy. But to answer your question.
Here are things that raise questions about Cruz or make people not like him - whether you believe they are true or not:
Natural born citizen status & being born out of the US
Goldman Sachs marriage
Wife’s participation in the Trilateral commission
His lack of charitable giving despite wanting everyone to know he is a Christian.
Failure to disclose loans when he filed for the election despite wanting everyone to know he is a Christian.
Carson deceitful incident in Iowa despite wanting everyone to know he is a Christian.
Deceitful mailer in Iowa despite wanting everyone to know he is a Christian.
Deceitful ads despite wanting everyone to know he is a Christian.
Nixonian mannerisms/creepiness/whiny voice
Constant selling of Christianity
Staff members quitting his campaign and saying he is a phony behind the scenes.
Now, I know the true Cruz believers can discount all of those.
I get it. Nor do I need them explained.
The more I hear Cruz, the less I like listening to him. His cadence, his voice, his laboring over points in slow motion, his failure to speak the language of the people and come across as an attorney... all of it. I’d rather mow the lawn or wash dishes or do taxes. That’s just me.
Is he better than Rubio? Sure. Is he better than Hillary? Sure.
There you go. My take on why people respond to him as you requested.
75 posts and no takers. Ted Cruz must have been OK before Donald Trump started. Ted Cruz is the same guy with the same positions as when everyone around here supported him.
When they learned he was Canadian up until about 16 months ago.
I haven’t
“Similarly these same people now dislike Rush Limbaugh” Rush, Rubio is a “Full Throated Conservative”. That Rush?
“I’m a giant Trump supporter and held Sen Cruz in the highest esteem until the Carson issue.”
Yeah, as opposed Trump saying about Carson: “If you’re pathological, there’s no cure for that,” Trump said. “If you’re a child molester, there’s no cure. They can’t stop you”. I can certainly see how that doesn’t even compare to Cruz or enter into your consideration of Trump.
Go back to January 2015, Cruz vs Walker.
Cruz supporters worked overtime to build a huge reservoir of ill-will with anyone who supported Walker.
By the time Trump got in, and Walker got out, the Cruz venom machine was in full production, with vicious attacks the norm.
Us Trumpers just finally had enough.
What I find interesting is that for a very long time I thought Cruz’s supporters were mean spirited, and Cruz himself was a nice guy.
Turns out Cruz is venomous too.
It started when Trump trashed the GOPe and demanded to throw out the illegals and build a wall.
And that was well and good.
That later changed to let the “good ones back in”...
But just because someone is burning down your enemies village doesn’t mean he won’t burn down yours too.
The real problem is, many seem to believe that this latest version of Trump’s views are true and will be how he governs. There’s zero evidence of that. He’s argued both sides of virtually every issue he’s ever spoken about at one time or another. And not just a little divergent from each other, polar opposites... He has no core principles that guide him therefore his positions change with the moment. Donald knows how to sell himself. He’s been doing so successfully for decades. People hear what they want to hear and he’s made the “deal” with them. Never mind it was just a sales pitch to get what he wants. And never mind he has no real love or use for the constitution or liberty. He’s a new flavor of big government and his supporters want an authoritarian leader that will get things done AKA make the trains run on time.
That has a MAJOR MAJOR lot to do with it, they were a reflection of Him.
Oh, and since you are looking for anti Cruz posts early on..., there has been a ping list on H-1B Visas since early Spring of 2015—and there were a lot of posts about Cruz open-border globalist H-1B Visa position.
Well, I started out excited for Cruz as a second choice after Trump.
Then I was around when the shame mailer thing happened. I thought for sure that he would distance himself from such nonsense, maybe fire someone, but he didn’t. His whole campaign reaction to that story was “meh, that’s just how politics is”. That didn’t seem like it fit with the “truth in politics” image he had been selling.
Then his campaign rushed to tell everyone Carson was out on Iowa caucus day. He apologized the next day, when it was too late for it to matter, of course, but at least he apologized. But then I noticed he blamed CNN and still didn’t fire or punish anyone or really accept any blame for the mistake.
After that, I started to look at his campaign a little more closely, and learned more about his campaign manager, Jeff Roe. Not going to post anything about him here, you can google if interested, but needless to say, I deem him and his Axiom Strategies company a bunch of slimeballs. Around the time I was reading about that guy, I saw another story about Cruz mailing fake checks. That was just attributed to more business as usual.
I don’t live in Texas, so I only knew of Cruz previously for the things he made national attention for, mainly trying to fight for conservative ultimatums before allowing budgets to pass. So initially, I liked him. But after all the stuff I’d read, I started reading about things I had been taking for granted, like his position on immigration, which he says has evolved. During the campaign, he has claimed that he was the reason the Gang of Eight bill didn’t pass. Initially, I believed him. But then I went back and read what he actually said in 2013, which was this:
Ted Cruz, on Gang of Eight Bill, 5/21/13: “They would still be eligible for legal status and indeed, under the terms of the bill, they would be eligible for LPR status as well so that they are out of the shadows. ... I don’t want immigration reform to fail. I want immigration reform to pass.”
So, he was either lying then, or he’s lying now.
Two days after Trump named two justices he’d consider for the Supreme Court at the debate, neither of which were his sister, Ted went in front of voters and said that Trump had only ever said he would nominate his sister, a reference to a joke in an interview from last year that Cruz supporters keep insisting was totally serious. Ted Cruz was standing right next to Trump at that debate, so really, that was the last nail in the coffin of his credibility for me. He will look voters in the eye and play the role of the sincere Christian brother, and lie to people’s faces.
Additional reading (thanks to some Ted supporters, ironically) and I learned that Ted has a “secret army” of paid actors going door to door to canvas for him, thanks to his 100+ million in Super PAC funding. That doesn’t exactly scream “grassroots anti-establishment” to me. If anything, it seems like the same business-as-usual backstabbing-in-waiting that ruined the TEA party.
Ted Cruz seems more to me like the kind of person the Bible warns about, not a voice for truth in politics.
If Cruz had better executive experience, he would have a better campaign manager, who wouldn’t have treated voters like gullible stooges, and I probably would have just assumed he was the stand-up above the board guy I thought he was initially. Instead, I think he’s a pretty vile person at worst, and an extremely poor leader at best.
All of that said, I’ll still vote for him if he gets the nomination.
But I won’t be proud of it, and I won’t tell anybody.
I have always liked Trump. His platform and his message to voters is overwhelmingly positive, and he isn’t part of the RNC/GOPe. I am sick of career politicians, and of all of the guys to come along and mess up their game, Trump is someone I can actually be proud to vote for, warts and all, because he spits in all of their faces. I’m tired of 30 years of promises from the political operatives with nothing to show for it. I’m trying something else this year.
FR has been overrun with populist who could give a craps clip about conservatism. It’s all Jesse Ventura with Rolex’s and helicopters. It’s just like the invasion across the border. ..unapposed. We forgot to build the wall of intellect. So here they are.
I accused him of being weak on immigration in 2014 based on this article, there was even a separate thread on it back then:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/us/cruz-tries-to-claim-the-middle-ground-on-immigration.html?_r=1&;
While people have their preferences of Trump vs. Cruz, many are also willing to vote for the other as their 2nd choice.
I see fault with both Trump and Cruz but we cannot let the dems win in November.
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Hint: There are a WHOLE LOT of good, moral, conservative FREEPERS who support Bush, Rubio, Cruz, or Carson, for good reasons, and they're all not in the "GOP-e" tank. Some OPPOSE Trump for ever better reasons. MOST OF US have been in the trenches fighting for conservative values our whole lives, much longer than Trump has been married to his third wife. And you slam us all as "not conservative"? Why would you say something like this? Who benefits if we're divided?
I hope the CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT wins in November, with a consistent, conservative message, regardless who the candidate is.
I lean Trump but barely-—got a ton of admiration for Cruz.
Why the bashing? All the candidates have their flaws.
Trump or Cruz for me but Reagan they ain’t. Combine them into one and maybe becomes a hint of the Gipper.
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