Posted on 02/17/2016 8:49:09 AM PST by pgyanke
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump bashed the tech company Apple today for refusing to help investigators access the iPhone of a San Bernardino attacker.
"I agree 100 percent with the courts," he said on "Fox and Friends" this morning. "In that case, we should open it up."
"To think that Apple won't allow us to get into her cell phone -- who do they think they are?" Trump said. "No, we have to open it up."
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Those devices are also used by us. Some who work in government (civilian and military), and for defense contractors, banks, pharmaceutical companies, utility companies etc..
You want them compromised too?
It’s a double edged sword. Kinda like the 2A. Bad people do bad things with guns. Let’s let government control them all.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3386607/posts?page=56#56
Link to the short transcript I posted.
In fact he has disappointed me over the last week on a couple very key points. It gives me cause for concern that he supports restrictions on gun ownership. That he used the language of the left to single out "assault weapons" is not good. My AR does not have a auto selector switch. It is semi auto. I don't appreciate anyone thinking it's ok to outlaw my right to own such.
Now with this Supreme Court nominee concerns I am also concerned. I don't want to guess whether the next president will nominate Constitutional constructionists. With Mr. Cruz I don't have that worry. Trump has not convinced me he will do right by conservatives with SC nominations.
It is clearly a national security issue. We know who the phone belonged to and what they did, i.e., they killed 14 Americans and wounded 30 others. Did they act alone? Were they part of a terror network? Are other attacks planned? This is not about privacy. It is about gathering intelligence data from known terrorists. Again, a sad commentary on how low we have sunk as a nation.
It’s extremely impressive. I actually did understand most of it but it’s is impressive none the less. I’d bet confidently that this security is far more than any other company has in their devices.
No it’s about government creep. One that cat is out of the bag, the FedGov can compromise any cell phone’s security, it opens the door to widespread abuse in the name of accusation. Government gaining access to people’s private communications can not be spun in any positive light IMO.
That’s just it. Apple has said even they can’t access it, even if they wanted to. That’s the whole point of this kind of security. Apple doesn’t want to know your data.
The whole wide world, companies and governments, criminals alike, want access to your data, it’s become easier to do than ever before, and here’s a company who thought that was a bad idea, doesn’t want your data, and has taken steps to assure you that your data is safe, even if you lose you phone.
How refreshing.
It’s sad that no one seems to be paying attention to your post, because it explains why this is such a terrible request by the government (and everyone will tell you I am NOT a fan of Apple... just ask Swordmaker).
First, the government is ordering Apple to create a product. They are not ordering Apple to disclose information (which is what a search warrant is for). They are ordering Apple to create a new version of IOS for them. This is pretty close to involuntary servitude here. The government can order you to disclose your passwords for your safe, but it cannot order you to build a new safe with no lock and then move your papers into them (much less someone else’s papers!).
Secondly, there is no “compromise” that sees Apple do the breaking themselves. That would destroy the chain of custody, and any information gained would never stand up in court. The government wants Apple to create a new IOS that will let the government do the brute-force hacking. The phone with the new IOS will be in their possession by design. The government can no more order Apple to break into the phone than they can order me to break into my neighbor’s house because I installed his front door. That’s completely absurd and illegal.
Third, once they get the phone, the government will have the firmware necessary to hack any phone. No matter what Apple does to try to limit the scope of the firmware, the government will be able to reverse-engineer the methods from this phone. Period.
The fools who are throwing around hyperbole about “American blood, etc.” are more dangerous to American liberty than the terrorists. The terrorists just want to kill us. The idiots who want to give government unconstitutional power because it’s a “WAHHHHR!!!!” are happy to enslave us to unconstrained government. The fact that they are well-meaning in their stupidity doesn’t make them less stupid...
I draw the line at the government ordering a person or company to design new software for the government's use. You want passwords, I'll give them to you with a warrant. You want to force my labor, to make me create a piece of software that doesn't exist (a new IOS with no password safeguards) in order to help you get into a phone that ISN'T MINE (because it is the property of the person I sold it to), then you are coming close to government ordered involuntary servitude. And that's not legitimate.
You can't be against Obamacare (the forcing of a person to spend his money on a product/service) and for this (the forcing of a company to create software for the government's use). It's the same principle.
Your Ralph Nader quote above is off topic. Nice try, though.
Excellent post. Thank you.
They’re protecting the privacy of anyone who owns one of their products, the vast majority of whom are doing nothing illegal.
Or not.
Yeah, I’m not really competent to assess the difficulty of complying with the government request. But you’re sure as shoot right they have no business ordering Apple to create a customized version of their operating system to benefit the government.
Hasn’t Apple opened phone data dozens of times before to cooperate with law enforcement?
SCENARIO: The location of a chemical attack in a U.S. government building in on a captured I-Phone. The attack is expected tomorrow. What does Apple do?
Probably... but that was before iOS8 when they held the encryption key. With the last two iOS releases, Apple has opted for customer privacy and security from hackers. They don't have the key and are as locked-out as the rest of us.
It doesn’t make sense to put one in, because what one person puts in, someone else can find. You can’t create a weak spot in a security system and be sure that nobody else will exploit it.
,,,, getting all the benefits of their native country while shipping whole industries and jobs to communist and fascist regimes abroad that keep their workers in serf-like conditions.
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