Posted on 02/17/2016 8:49:09 AM PST by pgyanke
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump bashed the tech company Apple today for refusing to help investigators access the iPhone of a San Bernardino attacker.
"I agree 100 percent with the courts," he said on "Fox and Friends" this morning. "In that case, we should open it up."
"To think that Apple won't allow us to get into her cell phone -- who do they think they are?" Trump said. "No, we have to open it up."
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If the court has the authority to press Apple into service in this way... they can do the same to you. Do you get it?
Apple is subject to the warrant as presented they have sufficient us contacts to be subject to US jurisdiction.
Apple did not fight us jurisdiction.
You should read more on the subject before spouting such nonsense.
How the Hell do you know what is likely or unlikely? Obviously, the government believes it can access the information with the assistance of Apple.
“How the Hell do you know what is likely or unlikely?”
It’s a cut and dry matter of mathematical probabilities.
If you actually read, you will see that it might be possible to find a way. They are refusing because finding a way will also expose everyone else's phone to the same hack.
Tim Cook is not making the “we can”t get the information” argument, he”s making the slippery slope argument.
Maybe because it is one.
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Its a business argument not that is all. Apple sells products premised that they are secure.
They are not dying on some hill to protect our constitutional rights.
Let’s get real.
Its a competitive advantage to sell phones free from snooping, especially to terrorists.
Its a business approach.
Then let them. Most of their workers are in China. They sell the biggest share of their product in America. We should leverage our market share to get what we want. Apple needs the US market more than we need them for jobs and tax revenue.
LOL. Yeah, sure Einstein. NSA can use its supercomputers to do what is necessary.
Fine. Execute the search warrant. You'll find nothing because:
1) The don't own the phone and
2) The ability to crack the encryption doesn't yet exist
The problem with the court order is that it is not a just an "order", it is an apparatchik diktat of an out of control government. They are ordering Apple to find a way to hack the phone. They could just as easily point the finger at any IT guy and conscript him into service. This is about whether the government has the authority to order Apple to develop a way to defeat their own product.
They are not dying on some hill to protect our constitutional rights.
Read that to yourself again a few more times and see if any bells go off in your head.
As described by the FBI in court filings, data on iPhones is encrypted. The 4-digit code you enter into your phone initiates a complex calculation which generates a unique key to unlock the data on the phone. No key, no data. The auto erase function, if triggered, will wipe out all the encryption keys rendering the data on the iPhone useless.
The iPhone has another feature to frustrate automated attempts to unlock a phone. A 4-digit code would produce 9,999 unique possibilities. Not a particularly big challenge by itself, but the code must be punched in manually. This would be time consuming enough, but after five failed attempts, the iPhone will require the the user to wait one minute before another attempt. After attempt six the wait is five minutes. Attempt seven and eight, 15 minutes and an hour after the ninth try. More time can be added in the software.
Due to the auto-erase feature, the FBI can’t attempt to unlock the iPhone without risking losing all the data. The FBI wants Apple to alter the operating system just on Farook’s phone to allow the FBI to bypass or disable the auto-erase function. It also wants Apple to alter the software to allow the test pass codes to be entered without punching the keys by using Bluetooth or other means to speed the process. And the FBI wants Apple to change the operating system to eliminate the delays caused by multiple attempts to unlock the phone.
Why can’t the FBI change the operating system codes? Apple has designed its phones so that only Apple software with a special cryptographic signature can run on it. No other software will work.
What about iCloud? IPhones can save data to the cloud. The FBI believes Farook turned this function off sometime after Oct. 19, the date of the phone’s last backup.
The is the scenario the FBI and intelligence offices have been concerned about since these security measures were first introduced. Google’s Android phones also have encryption capabilities. It is why FBI Director James Comey has been pleading with the tech industry and Congress to come up with a means for investigators to find evidence.
Many of these security features hit the market after the disclosures released by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden exposed government efforts to collect phone data in bulk.
“NSA can use its supercomputers to do what is necessary.”
Then let them do it, if your Hollywood conception of these matters is actually accurate! They shouldn’t need help from Apple, you’ve got it all figured out.
After everything you wrote there... this last sentence is the money quote.
The answer is obvious. Apple doesn't give a sh*t about this country and is more concerned about its profits. It actually helps their international operations by thwarting the government.
We are talking about one specific phone that has information on it that could help our national security. It not only involves people in this country but the terrorist network abroad. The international corporations could care less about America.
It really frosts me because these same corporations request USG assistance to defend their interests abroad and to help them market their products. One of the prime missions of our Embassies is to assist US businessmen overseas. We act as intermediaries with the host country to represent their interests. Why should we be loyal to them when they are not loyal to this country?
No doubt they will. It will take time and resources, but they will do it given the lack of cooperation from Apple and others. The only problem is that the information on the phone may be time sensitive and lessen its value.
Yep, it means that the government will develop its own way of breaking the encryption system. It would not have been necessary if Apple had cooperated.
If it's that easy, why the apparatchik court order?
As I posted somewhere above, a passcode is needed to authorize an update. Which was put in place to prevent hackers/thieves from trying what you suggest.
If you want to jailbreak your own phone fine, you have the passcode. Thieves and hackers don’t.
This is a generally a good thing.
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